Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (75 Viewers)

Aug 17, 2007
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I must say, Ale was great last night, I was impressed, but not shocked.

I was shocked in the pre-season for example, when he played like he's 23...I was really shocked. He was so sharp, fast and fresh that I couldn't believe it. He can do much better than last night, he was still a bit heavy and slow. Give him mintues and he'll get his speed back, and then we'll get the whole package.
 

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king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Err, it's not like Conte had any other option but to play Ale in a Coppa game, I always knew Ale would get his chance there.

There is nothing Vucinic can offer that Ale can't except that Ale would do it much better and in a way more classy style. Problem is that he can't play against all teams and he can't be a starter week in and week out. Those are the only advantages Mirko has over Ale, and nothing else.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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*Gazzetta usually wrong, don't they?
Yeah, but everyone will be wrong if dares to predict the starting lineups many days before the actual match. At this point Conte too doesn't know (most probably) who will replace Vucinic so Gazzetta are simply making an assumption. They might be right, they might be wrong.
If DP didn't play 120 minutes yesterday, I'd say that he was 80% gonna be the one replacing Vucinic.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Err, it's not like Conte had any other option but to play Ale in a Coppa game,
He had at least 5 options, even without including Pepe or Matri.

Giac played CM so we could have played 4-3-3 with Krasic-Quag-Esti or Krasic-Quag-Elia. Or we could play 4-4-2 with Quag-Toni up front. Or with Iaquinta or Amauri. If Conte didn't want to play DP or was told to punish him, he wouldn't have played him, especially with the convenient excuse he could have used with DP's injury on Sunday.

Conte played him because he thought Del Piero will do better than the others I mentioned above.
 

blondu

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Nov 9, 2006
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you're not a hater but he was good ..omg he was really in shape yesterday...some players whould shit their pants in 120 minutes, but he conserved his energy very well doing runs after 2 hours of playtime
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Well, yes. What better way to humiliate and punish DP is than to start even Amauri ahead of him? If Agnelli wants to force Ale out at any cost and if Conte was told to push Ale out, he would have done it, wouldn't he?

But never mind Amauri, I mentioned him and Iaquinta as the 4th or 5th option. You said there weren't any other options. I proved to you that there were many, including some much more logical options than Toni, Iaq and Amauri.
Why did DP start ahead of Estigarribia and Elia? Isn't it because Conte thought he'll do better than those two?
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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As much as I enjoyed seeing him play last night, let's not go overboard. He really wasn't that good.

Now, who'll be the first to call me a DP hater?
You are not a hater but I'm sure you'd prefer to be called a hater :p

Well, yes. What better way to humiliate and punish DP is than to start even Amauri ahead of him? If Agnelli wants to force Ale out at any cost and if Conte was told to push Ale out, he would have done it, wouldn't he?

But never mind Amauri, I mentioned him and Iaquinta as the 4th or 5th option. You said there weren't any other options. I proved to you that there were many, including some much more logical options than Toni, Iaq and Amauri.
Why did DP start ahead of Estigarribia and Elia? Isn't it because Conte thought he'll do better than those two?
Yea, why bother, Conte could have played Grosso or Buffon up front, now that he didn't, I'm proven wrong :cry:
 

Alen

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Yea, why bother, Conte could have played Grosso or Buffon up front, now that he didn't, I'm proven wrong :cry:
Yes you were. I don't need Buffon and Grosso to prove you wrong.

It's simple. There was a reason why Storari played ahead of Manninger even though Conte had an option to play the Austrian goalkeeper. There is a reason why Sorensen played ahead of Motta even though the option was there for Conte to play another RB, not the Danish kid and there was a reason why Del Piero started ahead of players who could have filled DP's position, which was their natural position too. Conte had other attackers and attacking wingers to use but he chose Del Piero.

Conspiracy theory busted :agree:
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Yes you were. I don't need Buffon and Grosso to prove you wrong.

It's simple. There was a reason why Storari played ahead of Manninger even though Conte had an option to play the Austrian goalkeeper. There is a reason why Sorensen played ahead of Motta even though the option was there for Conte to play another RB, not the Danish kid and there was a reason why Del Piero started ahead of players who could have filled DP's position, which was their natural position too. Conte had other attackers and attacking wingers to use but he chose Del Piero.

Conspiracy theory busted :agree:
Nope. He was the only player who could take that role. Mirko's injured, Ale took his place. As simple as that. Now keep mentioning Amauris and Danish kids of the team :)
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Nope. He was the only player who could take that role. Mirko's injured, Ale took his place. As simple as that.
If Conte thought the Coppa match was so important he wouldn't have played the almost entire B team. He even played Giaccherini out of position in order to rest the starters.
Since Conte obviously didn't take the match seriously, he could have easily played Elia or Estigarribia instead of playing the better option (which is still one of many options).

Now lets see if Del Piero will replace Vucinic against Roma. Since you think that he's the only player who can replace Vucinic (I agree that he's the best option to replace Vucinic) then Conte will have no options but to play him, as you said. If someone else replaces Vucinic, then I guess it will be proven that Conte did have the same option to use against Bologna too.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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If Conte thought the Coppa match was so important he wouldn't have played the almost entire B team. He even played Giaccherini out of position in order to rest the starters.
Since Conte obviously didn't take the match seriously, he could have easily played Elia or Estigarribia instead of playing the better option (which is still one of many options).

Now lets see if Del Piero will replace Vucinic against Roma. Since you think that he's the only player who can replace Vucinic (I agree that he's the best option to replace Vucinic) then Conte will have no options but to play him, as you said. If someone else replaces Vucinic, then I guess it will be proven that Conte did have the same option to use against Bologna too.
Sorry but no. He had no other option for the Coppa game and as you said, it was a Coppa game after all. Plus, he might be benched against Roma because he already played 120 minutes and it's a bit too much considering his age to start another game in a 3-4 day span of time.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Sorry but no. He had no other option for the Coppa game and as you said, it was a Coppa game after all. Plus, he might be benched against Roma because he already played 120 minutes and it's a bit too much considering his age to start another game in a 3-4 day span of time.
Why did Conte tire his ONLY option against Bologna instead of keeping him for the much more important Roma match? He kept his only option for playmaking, Pirlo, on the bench and he even used Giaccherini there. Why didn't he do the same with his only option to replace Vucinic? :confused:
 

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