Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (254 Viewers)

[Snoop]

How is it Giovinco has played not much more minutes, yet has shown alot more?

Because Giovinco is match fit, he didn't suffer any injury.

He was poor and sluggish. There's nothing wrong with saying that because it's the truth.

Saying he doesn't deserve to play in the first eleven is weird, and specially when he isn't playing. He needs to play one or two full matches to gain his form, that he is fully fit.. Playing him at last minutes like these is not helping him at all.

 

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[ZAF3000]

Del Piero was sidelined by an injury for almost 1/3 of the season. And now that he is physically fit he is not getting the enough playing time gain back his match fitness. Thats why is suffering.
Same situation was with Trezeguet, after his injury he suffered. But after few matches and scoring a couple of goals he's now back.

I don't know how the training grounds are going. But if everyone was giving a good effort, I would have started Del Piero today to gain some match fitness AND, most importantly, give the experience and confidence needed to the squad today which we really lacked.

Players like, Del Piero, Buffon and Trezeguet are crucial to Juventus now. Because like the fans, the other players have seen what those three are capable of and they do trust their ability to lift the team from the shit-hole. Such players, even when they are somewhat of form, are capable of absorbing alot of the pressure given to the squad which makes inexperienced players like Giovinco and younger players like Diego play at ease.

Trezeguet and Del Piero should start until we are out of this shit-hole. I trust them to do the right thing and to take us out of this crap.

 

[SABSAB]

Del Piero wasn't even that bad today.
First thing he did was setting up Trez but that situation ended with that crash.
There were some good passes between him and Seba and he took some fouls in good positions.

 

[Azzurri7]

I don't know how some of you concluded that he was bad today.

How many time he touched the ball? Did he receive more than couple of passes? Did he miss a sitter? Or one vs one against the keeper?

Base on what are you judging his bad game today? Lets talk some football instead of just working out our fingers.

 

[Yamen]

Whats new. We agree to disagree.

 

[Hydde]

Delpie is the least of our problems me thinks. He is not in form but he is not the one to blame for our disastrous performances.

Before DP, are a lot of people deserving the bye bye kick, like secco, blanc and ferrara.

 

[Platini's Ghost]

That's the problem here. Everyone heads over to the Amauri thread to insult the player, even when he plays well, but when Alex is fairly criticized, volcanos gush lava, earthquakes break apart sediment, and the atmosphere bursts into flames.

It's not a DP vs. Amauri issue. Everyone knows who the better player is, but both have form problems.

Good point, I admit I don't need anyone to hurry me to torch Amauri in his thread as I'm elbowing my way to the front of that q.

Quite simply neither Alex nor Amauri should be anywhere near our first 11 imo, for different reasons, but nontheless this is the truth. Alex in slow-motion would be an increase in speed at this point of where he is. Our striker should be someone we buy in January, who has characteristics our forwards don't have. If Spalletti wants Iaquinta and Sheffield United want Amauri, then we can buy a proper player up front.

But the whole "... who the better player is ..." ... is misleading with DP and Amauri.

The better of those two is in no position to boast or brag these days.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Can't criticize Ale for todays loss but its certainly time to find his replacement. We've had Ale as our leader for three years after the whole Serie B crap and it didn't result in anything. Its time to replace him by spending big.

What exactly do you mean with the bit that I highlighted?

But the whole "... who the better player is ..." ... is misleading with DP and Amauri.

The better of those two is in no position to boast or brag these days.

That is certainly true.

 

[Ahmed]

Ale, please fix this

 

[Del Piero Style]

Ale, please fix this

Just give him a chance

 

[di_vladi]

Can't criticize Ale for todays loss but its certainly time to find his replacement. We've had Ale as our leader for three years after the whole Serie B crap and it didn't result in anything. Its time to replace him by spending big.

are you serious???????????? he's been our best player for the last 3 seasons and top goalscorer in 2008. you dont have a clue what your are talking about.

 

[Lo-Pan]

He has been one of our best players in a 4-4-2. But in our new set of formations he simply doesnt fit...Nowhere hear strong enough to play as a lone striker, and nowhere near fluid enough to play in the 3 in a 4-2-3-1. We should sell him...though I doubt there would be many bidders. Yes, he has been a legend for our club, and deserves reverence and respect, but if I am being objective, he truly has no role left to play in our starting eleven. Unless we bench Diego...That is what it comes down to, because 4-3-1-2 does not seem to work, and Diego is 24, Del Piero is 86...

Incorporating DP ruins both Diego and Giovinco...and for what DP brings to the team, in a 4-4-2, or a 4-3-1-2, the cost is far too great compared with what Gio and Diego and Melo bring to the team in a 4-2-3-1.

 

[Tommy]

He has been one of our best players in a 4-4-2. But in our new set of formations he simply doesnt fit...Nowhere hear strong enough to play as a lone striker, and nowhere near fluid enough to play in the 3 in a 4-2-3-1. We should sell him...though I doubt there would be many bidders. Yes, he has been a legend for our club, and deserves reverence and respect, but if I am being objective, he truly has no role left to play in our starting eleven. Unless we bench Diego...That is what it comes down to, because 4-3-1-2 does not seem to work, and Diego is 24, Del Piero is 86...

Incorporating DP ruins both Diego and Giovinco...and for what DP brings to the team, in a 4-4-2, or a 4-3-1-2, the cost is far too great compared with what Gio and Diego and Melo bring to the team in a 4-2-3-1.

that is the most BS thing ive seen in the forum

 

[blondu]

joke of the day

 

[Buck Fuddy]

He has been one of our best players in a 4-4-2. But in our new set of formations he simply doesnt fit...Nowhere hear strong enough to play as a lone striker, and nowhere near fluid enough to play in the 3 in a 4-2-3-1. We should sell him...though I doubt there would be many bidders. Yes, he has been a legend for our club, and deserves reverence and respect, but if I am being objective, he truly has no role left to play in our starting eleven. Unless we bench Diego...That is what it comes down to, because 4-3-1-2 does not seem to work, and Diego is 24, Del Piero is 86...

Incorporating DP ruins both Diego and Giovinco...and for what DP brings to the team, in a 4-4-2, or a 4-3-1-2, the cost is far too great compared with what Gio and Diego and Melo bring to the team in a 4-2-3-1.

You may have a point about the formations, but exactly what good would selling DP do? It's not like he's going to fetch us any money, and we would be without our captain (and arguably most influential player in the dressing room.)

 

[Lo-Pan]

It would allow him to play...which is what, as a footballer, i am sure he is desperate to do. Which he is not going to get the chance to do, if we are to adopt the formations which bring the best out of melo, diego and giovinco.

Perhaps the sale is too much. But if a team wanted him, why not???? Is it more respectful to keep him on the bench, and to adopt a formation which he is not at all suited to???

 

[Lo-Pan]

joke of the day

I don't see the humour. Please explain...An extremely high paid player who it seems has no role in our starting XI.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

It would allow him to play...which is what, as a footballer, i am sure he is desperate to do. Which he is not going to get the chance to do, if we are to adopt the formations which bring the best out of melo, diego and giovinco.

Perhaps the sale is too much. But if a team wanted him, why not???? Is it more respectful to keep him on the bench, and to adopt a formation which he is not at all suited to???

What makes you think we're going to adopt a formation that brings out the best of Giovinco and the others? So far I have seen very little to make me believe that, sad as it may be.
What is that formation anyway? Is it really the 4-2-3-1 like many of us think (myself pretty much included) or is actually something different? We don't know that, the Napoli game is enough to come to that conclusion. Believe me, that game was no fluke.

Anyway, when it comes to a legendary player like Alex you just don't go around trying to ship him off. That would be a complete lack of respect. You listen to the man and hear what he thinks and has to say. Would he be ok with being benched a lot of the time? Would he, as a consequence, be ok with a smaller role in the dressing room? Etc. If he is, I see no reason why he should go.

If both parties come to a mutual decision that it would be best to leave, so be it. Terminate the contract and let him go the team / country of his choice for the remainder of his career.
But you don't sell a player like that.

 

[Lo-Pan]

It was only a month back that DP was intimating that he harboured hopes of taking part in next year's world cup...If we are to continue with the 4-2-3-1, which I hope we do, as it seems the best way to involve the majority of our best players, then Alex is not going to get a look in.

Yes, I will rescind the rather abrupt, almost bullish suggestion of selling him, but maintain my assertion that his days near our first team, are numbered, or already finished.

I would love to see him adopt a role in the club, but not coaching, preferably as some kind of ambassador. I need time to recover from the Ciro horror before I could happily say 'yeh why not, he was a legend for the club, of course he can coach!'...

I do respect him. And his hopes...but his hopes are not going to be blossomed into reality at Juve. His world cup hopes I mean.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

It was only a month back that DP was intimating that he harboured hopes of taking part in next year's world cup...If we are to continue with the 4-2-3-1, which I hope we do, as it seems the best way to involve the majority of our best players, then Alex is not going to get a look in.

Yes, I will rescind the rather abrupt, almost bullish suggestion of selling him, but maintain my assertion that his days near our first team, are numbered, or already finished.

I would love to see him adopt a role in the club, but not coaching, preferably as some kind of ambassador. I need time to recover from the Ciro horror before I could happily say 'yeh why not, he was a legend for the club, of course he can coach!'...

I do respect him. And his hopes...but his hopes are not going to be blossomed into reality at Juve. His world cup hopes I mean.

If you put it like that, then I'm very much ok with it.