Ibra & Camoranesi want out (12 Viewers)

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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#81
PhRoZeN said:
Even tho I agree that trying to persuade him to stay is wrong.. I think by the sound of things its looking good and may work out well for us anyway. If other clubs see that we are desperate in keeping him and he wants to leave this should only allow the clubs to put in a higher bid. So IMO so far so good. As for issue regarding canna and zambro, we cant really say the club did persuade them or not, its rather a matter of the players just wanted to leave. If im right zlatans agent did mention something about wage as a hint, which automatically made the board assume that he wanted to stay, but now his changed his mind and wants to leave, so thas clearly up to him. I think the club has tried keeping everyone and those who give the slightest of hint staying they tried holding on to them.
Ok that's one potential scenario,but if our board really want to keep him and if they are willing to give him more money,I would be pissed off,cuz they didn't even try to keep Canna and zambo,and Zambo had even lesser wage than Ibrahimovic has at the moment.
 

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Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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#82
giovanotti said:
I agree with you 99% and that 1% is Lucarelli from Livorno.;)

And very well said about Zambro and Canna.

oops :oops: sorry there got confused.

i hope madrid take ibra he would suck there too. and drown the team even more.
as for viera i really dont care about wher ehe goes i cant stand him.
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
14,418
#86
its true no player wants to play in seria B but once again i find it quite sad that most of the players ditched the club as soon as it sank into seria B. this is the bad bit about the entire seria B issue. i dont think ibrahimovic is staying for the love of the club i think its cos he has no where better to head too. unlessinter or real put good cash on the table only then will he leave and i wont be devasted or upset since he neve rcared about the team.
 

serfaraaz

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Apr 14, 2005
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#87
juve_ruler said:
its true no player wants to play in seria B but once again i find it quite sad that most of ditched the club as soon as it sank into seria B. this is the bad bit about the entire seria B issue. i dont think ibrahimovic is staying for the love of the club i think its cos he has no where better to head too. unlessinter or real put good cash on the table only then will he leave and i wont be devasted or upset since he neve rcared about the team.
and the players that left promised to stay
 

Dukoski

Moggi's Admirer and Fan
May 1, 2006
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#88
juve88 said:
hey guys what you all think about my picture that i have ????????????
Plastic,plastic picture of that cemetery for players.
Fine and good.Idiots who can not defeat us on the field .
Someone should permanently send them in their headquaters a picture or a video of Del Piero goal last season when we won in Milan 2:1 from a free kick.Poor bastards.
 

Dukoski

Moggi's Admirer and Fan
May 1, 2006
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#89
Morra10 said:
give milan cammo and ibrah for 37 mill euros instead of ibrah and buffon!!!
Give Milan nothing,nothing .Does not care what amount of money.Only Inter is more hated club by me then Milan.Why to sell our players in Milan,in situation when they have their price for every other club and it is the same.To gave them in Milan to get some more scudettos.No way!!!!!!!
 

Dukoski

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May 1, 2006
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#90
juve_ruler said:
oops :oops: sorry there got confused.

i hope madrid take ibra he would suck there too. and drown the team even more.
as for viera i really dont care about wher ehe goes i cant stand him.

I would like Madrid to buy Ibra.I was impressed with his first games for Juve,last year(first season for Juve) but after, he shows his real face.First he is not that much enough good for Juve,second he does not have Juve team mentality,instead ,he is a selfish m.........er who is incredibly sttuborn and plays well every 5-th game.
The main reason why he is in Juve is that Mr."beloved" bustard Capello,who is more,manager for players and trader much than a coach ,wants him,and mighty Moggi agrees ,because he things that Capello is building a team for CL.Let him go for good amount.Camoranesi is a fine player,but what can we do .Thats life.
Sell Viera yestarday,that quick(Another wish of b.....d Capello.
 

Paolo Sosa

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Nov 11, 2005
2,377
#91
it seems as if we spent these couple of years collecting the most disloyal players in the world, real shame. they really never deserved to wear the great Juve shirt.
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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#92
Paolo Sosa said:
it seems as if we spent these couple of years collecting the most disloyal players in the world, real shame. they really never deserved to wear the great Juve shirt.
True but on the other hand we have some extreme loyal players-Del Piero and Neddy.:)
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
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#93
I know that every person on tthis forum disagree with this but I really hope Ibra could go on a 1 year loan to any club!!! I know that this man will be one of the best strikers in the world very soon & I dont want to see him shining 2 years later with milan,man utd.. etc... & say we should have kept him!! Ibra had a terrible season with Juve last season,but anyone who understand even a little football know that he has an amaizing talent & that if a coach used this talent in the right way,he could do miracles & we all saw him in 2004,2005! stop attacking the player just coz u all hate him for taking alex's place the last 2 season, it was never his fault! Forza Ibra!
 

pavelnedved

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Jul 15, 2006
2,992
#94
Yes, Ibra is young and talented, so he should go on loan.

But on the other hand, we're turning into another Juventus, the one in which the players really love the club and I doubt that Ibra fits in there.
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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#95
THE CHAMPIONS said:
I know that every person on tthis forum disagree with this but I really hope Ibra could go on a 1 year loan to any club!!! I know that this man will be one of the best strikers in the world very soon & I dont want to see him shining 2 years later with milan,man utd.. etc... & say we should have kept him!! Ibra had a terrible season with Juve last season,but anyone who understand even a little football know that he has an amaizing talent & that if a coach used this talent in the right way,he could do miracles & we all saw him in 2004,2005! stop attacking the player just coz u all hate him for taking alex's place the last 2 season, it was never his fault! Forza Ibra!
Actually he didn't take it by himself,crapello took it and gave it to Ibrahimovic.

I don't hate him,I just want to see his back because he is not loyal,he is overrated and he is so called star.He can't shine here,maybe in some other club.
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
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#96
pavelnedved said:
Yes, Ibra is young and talented, so he should go on loan.

But on the other hand, we're turning into another Juventus, the one in which the players really love the club and I doubt that Ibra fits in there.
man do u really think that palladino,bojinov,Giannichedda,c.zanetti,Tudor,balzaretti,zalayeta,oliviera really love the club.Every player in the world search for himself first!!! We all thought that Zambo is one of the most loyal players ever came to Juve & the moment he had an offer he dissapeared & didnt even said anything to us(the supporters)!!!!! So lets forget about loving the club & being loyal & this bullshit!! As for alex he is a special case! Torino is his home!! alex is not player in Juve,alex is the symbol of Juve so except for him,every player search for himself first even Nedved & Buffon!!!!!
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
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#97
giovanotti said:
Actually he didn't take it by himself,crapello took it and gave it to Ibrahimovic.

I don't hate him,I just want to see his back because he is not loyal,he is overrated and he is so called star.He can't shine here,maybe in some other club.
man he proved that he could shine with Juve & he was the best player in 2004,2005 & he took the best foreign player in Italy.He is a great talent & it will be a great loss to see him doing his stuff with other club & regreeting it!
 

pavelnedved

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Jul 15, 2006
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#98
THE CHAMPIONS said:
man do u really think that palladino,bojinov,Giannichedda,c.zanetti,Tudor,balzaretti,zalayeta,oliviera really love the club.Every player in the world search for himself first!!! We all thought that Zambo is one of the most loyal players ever came to Juve & the moment he had an offer he dissapeared & didnt even said anything to us(the supporters)!!!!! So lets forget about loving the club & being loyal & this bullshit!! As for alex he is a special case! Torino is his home!! alex is not player in Juve,alex is the symbol of Juve so except for him,every player search for himself first even Nedved & Buffon!!!!!
No, but asking for a pay raise in his situation is just rude.

-He had a fucking awful season and WC
-We're demoted ! Like if we're gonna give pay raises at this time
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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#99
THE CHAMPIONS said:
man do u really think that palladino,bojinov,Giannichedda,c.zanetti,Tudor,balzaretti,zalayeta,oliviera really love the club.Every player in the world search for himself first!!! We all thought that Zambo is one of the most loyal players ever came to Juve & the moment he had an offer he dissapeared & didnt even said anything to us(the supporters)!!!!! So lets forget about loving the club & being loyal & this bullshit!! As for alex he is a special case! Torino is his home!! alex is not player in Juve,alex is the symbol of Juve so except for him,every player search for himself first even Nedved & Buffon!!!!!
In Ibra's case that is 100 times more reported.
I really don't expect him to be loyal,because he is here just 2 seasons,but on the other hand he is showing that kind of character,he was not concern even for his Sweden,I will ask you to rememeber the look on his face while Sweden was losing,it was like "I don't give a shite for that cuz I'm not in the game".
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
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pavelnedved said:
No, but asking for a pay raise in his situation is just rude.

-He had a fucking awful season and WC
-We're demoted ! Like if we're gonna give pay raises at this time
actually,I am against keeping him with the team in Serie b , his style wont fit the games we r about to play.all I want is to loan him & not sell him,he might play a great season on loan & then if a huge offer came to Juve we could sell him for smthing like 40 millions or keep him if the club is willing but selling a great young talent now for smthing like 20 millions is just not right!!!!!!
 

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