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[king Ale]

Can the assisted pull-up machine help with getting unassisted pullups eventually?

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Can the assisted pull-up machine help with getting unassisted pullups eventually?

yep

 

[JCK]

Can the assisted pull-up machine help with getting unassisted pullups eventually?

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Oh boy

I would rather use elastic bands than the machine. They will definitely get you there.

 

[ALC]

Can the assisted pull-up machine help with getting unassisted pullups eventually?

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Yeah, it’ll help. Pull downs are even better imo but that’s a preference thing. Just focus on back and core and you’ll be doing pull-ups in no time

What hand position btw?

 

[king Ale]

Thanks. As silly as it sounds, doing pull-ups has been a dream of mine since I was a teenager Not that I did anything to achieve it, I sucked so hard at it that I never really bothered. I started with the assisted machine a couple of months ago (@ALC the widest grip, don't know if it was a good idea but it was what I wanted to be able to do), and gradually made it more difficult for myself. Still can't do an unassisted one though. I'm extremely patient but I was wondering if working with the machine is useful at all.

 

[lgorTudor]

definitely helps, IIRC the widest grip is the most latissimus-intensive one - narrow grip could be easier at first

 

[Post Ironic]

Shoulder width or slightly narrower neutral or chin-up grip is easiest.

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I would rather use elastic bands than the machine. They will definitely get you there.

Elastic bands and/or weighted pulley systems are the best way to start out towards a pull-up.

If one is strong enough, and careful not to overdo it, slow eccentrics (jump to top of pull-up and lower over 5-15 seconds) and lock-offs in various positions are the best way to get through the last stages of learning a pull-up.

 

[ALC]

Thanks. As silly as it sounds, doing pull-ups has been a dream of mine since I was a teenager Not that I did anything to achieve it, I sucked so hard at it that I never really bothered. I started with the assisted machine a couple of months ago (@ALC the widest grip, don't know if it was a good idea but it was what I wanted to be able to do), and gradually made it more difficult for myself. Still can't do an unassisted one though. I'm extremely patient but I was wondering if working with the machine is useful at all.

What igortudor and post ironic said, start with the more narrow grip. And definitely use the pull down machine at lower eights first, it’ll allow you to focus on your back muscles and build up strength.

 

[JuveJay]

I notice in my gym that those better at pull ups are the skinny dudes. As a 6 month rookie to them I can only do a few before failure, but starting with the assist seat and regular and wide grip helped pretty quickly. They are muscles the average person barely ever uses so it takes time.

Dips on the other hand, no problem at all.

 

[ALC]

I notice in my gym that those better at pull ups are the skinny dudes. As a 6 month rookie to them I can only do a few before failure, but starting with the assist seat and regular and wide grip helped pretty quickly. They are muscles the average person barely ever uses so it takes time.

Dips on the other hand, no problem at all.

@king Ale

Also try being a skinny dude

 

[king Ale]

I notice in my gym that those better at pull ups are the skinny dudes. As a 6 month rookie to them I can only do a few before failure, but starting with the assist seat and regular and wide grip helped pretty quickly. They are muscles the average person barely ever uses so it takes time.

Dips on the other hand, no problem at all.

That's quite contrary to what I have seen though. I have even seen a couple of visibly overweight guys who do pull-ups so easily it's amazing. No exercise fascinates me as much

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yep

Weight training, yes. I started ~8 months ago and I love it. I don't remember the last habit I formed and didn't get bored or demotivated for as long a time.

 

[JuveJay]

Trust me, I really don't understand it either. Some floppy-haired 16-17 year old noob next to me on the cable machine, arms like Bonucci's legs, just jumps up to the handles and does 10-12 pull ups like nothing. I get the idea of less weight being easier but I see this all the time. Personally I also see far less girls doing it unassisted, in fact I can barely remember seeing it.

 

[JCK]

That's quite contrary to what I have seen though. I have even seen a couple of visibly overweight guys who do pull-ups so easily it's amazing. No exercise fascinates me as much

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Weight training, yes. I started ~8 months ago and I love it. I don't remember the last habit I formed and didn't get bored or demotivated for as long a time.

More than a muscle up?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

That's quite contrary to what I have seen though. I have even seen a couple of visibly overweight guys who do pull-ups so easily it's amazing. No exercise fascinates me as much

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Weight training, yes. I started ~8 months ago and I love it. I don't remember the last habit I formed and didn't get bored or demotivated for as long a time.

relaxing innit

 

[king Ale]

Trust me, I really don't understand it either. Some floppy-haired 16-17 year old noob next to me on the cable machine, arms like Bonucci's legs, just jumps up to the handles and does 10-12 pull ups like nothing. I get the idea of less weight being easier but I see this all the time. Personally I also see far less girls doing it unassisted, in fact I can barely remember seeing it.

It's probably the upper body strength to the body weight ratio, so you can increase one and/or decrease the other and perform the exercise. My upper body is untrained and too weak, must be the case with most women.

More than a muscle up?

I had to google it. So it's an advanced pull-up? I've never seen anyone doing it in the gym I go

relaxing innit

It is. On the one hand it is about all those small short term goals I set for which I have to keep challenging myself and explore my capabilities and limits. On the other hand, because I have no ultimate expectated outcome (I don't want to think of a day when I have achieved an ultimate goal ), there is no rush, pressure, or disappointment.

 

[Post Ironic]

More than a muscle up?

How's this going for you?

 

[Klovn]

Any tips for a new beginner who wants to lose weight(5-10KG) and become bigger?

 

[Maddy]

Any tips for a new beginner who wants to lose weight(5-10KG) and become bigger?

Stop talking about it and do it.

 

[JCK]

How's this going for you?

Problems with my shoulder set me back quite a lot, I am back to pull ups now but I have to focus more on running because of the half marathon in May.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Any tips for a new beginner who wants to lose weight(5-10KG) and become bigger?

Go to the gym 5 times a week every week for 3 months, no excuses, and work out for 45 minutes, do whatever you want