Gym and fitness (38 Viewers)

[AFL_ITALIA]

Yes, most of them are like that but some are really impressive. I am happy that I found one that does not fit the stereotype.

Indeed, it's great. "But I don't want to get big!" Oh yes sure, that's why my arms are about average after about a year or so .

 

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[icemaη]

perfect! then a new world awaits you along with the work out plan, trust me when i say you are missing out on SO much

I always regret not learning it when I was younger. Maybe it's not too late

Do you visit a gym ?
Do you own a good enough bike ?

I haven't in a while. I want to have a plan when I do visit. Otherwise it's me doing random stuff without seeing any results.

 

[alexjuventino]

So you don't want to be a marathon runner and still want to run 4-5 times a week? I said I reach the 35-40 km only when preparing for the half marathon and during the rest of the year I run twice or three times per week with 10 km being the longest distance most of the time. Only when I want to totally meditate I go for a 15er at slow tempo. So to answer your question, no don't run 4-5 times per week, your legs won't let you unless you are a good runner.

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No I haven't, the longest I have run is 30km on a hilly terrain. I wanted to do it three years ago but then we got our first child and I don't want to run a marathon without being really prepared. I would probably finish a marathon but I always have high expectations when participating (of course to my standard, competition with myself is the first competition). If I am to run a marathon I would want to set a time limit and most importantly I would want to be able to walk the day after.

Well the I'm trying to get fit for soccer next season and also for myself

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

*--You have a widow of one houre to trigger HGh response. After that, you eighter wait for the next day, or sleep 2/3 houre and eat to be able to trigger another, but it wont be as much.

Does this mean that once you begin working on a specific muscle, you have to "tear the fiber" within one hour and all work after is for nothing?

The guy one houre in the gym that uses a sugar based energydrink is a fucking joke. If he drinks bcaa he's having to much money. drink water.

This cracked me up.

bodybuilders : isolate their stuff on 4-6 days. pro's train 6 days in a row, or twice per day with long sleep at noon. they will train for 60-70minutes MAX. they'll do 2 groups (1 major one minor) ) per trainingsession and make sure they dont overlap for 2 day period

Honestly, I think 70 minutes is too short for me to complete all I want to do. And I don't chat and pose at the gym.

SO, you can do a 2x full body,wich is what i gave to alexjuventino.

Basically, you'lltrain all the groups of the upper body on one day, and all the groups of lower body on the other.
for this reason, i include mass excercises for every bodypart, no definition (aint got time for that)
secondly, on the leg day, we do regular cardio and on upper body day, we'll do interval, spreading the pain a bit.

That'll take like 2 1/2 hours per day. And I ain't got all that energy.

Is like this good? Day 1: Chest, Tri; Day 2: Back, Shoulder; Day 3: Leg, Bi; Repeat
That's been working well for me, except on leg days where I'm too dead for anything after legs.

Your mitochondria are burning that shit. But its an aerobic process. 6O2+C6H12O6 -> 6Co2 + 6H2O (36 atp generated after oxidative fosforylation)

Mmm yes, I see. I see...

One other question. Chest is where I'm seeing the most noticeable growth, and I put extra effort there. But I hardly feel the burn there, during and the days after... Normal?

 

[ALC]

Is like this good? Day 1: Chest, Tri; Day 2: Back, Shoulder; Day 3: Leg, Bi; Repeat
That's been working well for me, except on leg days where I'm too dead for anything after legs.

One other question. Chest is where I'm seeing the most noticeable growth, and I put extra effort there. But I hardly feel the burn there, during and the days after... Normal?

that's my same schedule except that on wednesdays i do shoulders while doing back and biceps on tuesdays.

about the chest, i don't always get the burn either and i don't know for sure if that's a bad or good thing.

 

[Zacheryah]

Does this mean that once you begin working on a specific muscle, you have to "tear the fiber" within one hour and all work after is for nothing?


This cracked me up.



Honestly, I think 70 minutes is too short for me to complete all I want to do. And I don't chat and pose at the gym.

That'll take like 2 1/2 hours per day. And I ain't got all that energy.

Is like this good? Day 1: Chest, Tri; Day 2: Back, Shoulder; Day 3: Leg, Bi; Repeat
That's been working well for me, except on leg days where I'm too dead for anything after legs.



Mmm yes, I see. I see...

One other question. Chest is where I'm seeing the most noticeable growth, and I put extra effort there. But I hardly feel the burn there, during and the days after... Normal?

1) Yeah, but its not like a usual tear. These are microtissue. It basically means that if you are squatting with bodyweight, you wont hardly make some. However, putting on 85% of your max for a few reps, will cause tears in the entire muscle, wich is the essential basis of weighttraining (the trauma, and squat offc)

2)I'm serious. Sugar recovery drinks are for endurance athletes. People who come to lose weight and drink those will actually lose nothing, perhaps even gain. Gym means drink some goddamn water.

3)you are not a pro. It doesnt matter. Neighter am i. My trainings usually last 90 mins but i'm a chatter. Its less efficient, but its still doing its work.

4)that works aswel, just remember the sets and reps. And the cardio or interval at the end, wich is so vital for you

5) Thats normal. Your rep range is probably to short, or its long but the weight isnt good enough
try incline fly's untill muscular failure (but really untill muscular failure, the arms must collapse nearly each time.
try to pick the weight that the failure occurs between 15 and 20 reps

then come back after 2 days, and tell me if you can put clothes on by urself

 

[ALC]

i was under the impression that doing over 10 reps meant you're not lifting enough. i hardly go over it and usually start low and increasing the weight until i can only do a few reps. sometimes followed by a low weight set. 3-4 sets overall. you think that's appropriate?

 

[Zacheryah]

depends on what you train for

Low reps, 3-5 are for pure strenght training, for compound excercise

However, if you want buff and volume, you need to train diffrent.
bodybuilders used to do several 12 rep sets, and the standard these days is even 15 reps.

However, that could be 15*160kg benchpress for example, so take that in perspective.

if you want to grow, the12-10-8-6 reps for big muscle, and 3*12/15 for the definition, is the way to go



I dont like it. i fucking love 3setters

 

[Ramin]

Is caffeine advisable pre workout? Does it have any effect, good or bad?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

4)that works aswel, just remember the sets and reps. And the cardio or interval at the end, wich is so vital for you

Is this really necessary? I play football twice a week.

Also: Let's say my required calorie intake is 3000 and my protein is 180 for me to gain mass, what would happen if my intake dropped to 2500 calories and the same protein? I would lose weight, but would it be more fat than muscle, or a lot of muscle too?

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Is caffeine advisable pre workout? Does it have any effect, good or bad?

From what I read it's good for repetitive moments like weight lifting. I find it really helps me focus too.

Wait, Zach is banned again?

 

[Azzurri7]

You're not surprised right?

 

[Enron]

From what I read it's good for repetitive moments like weight lifting. I find it really helps me focus too.

Wait, Zach is banned again?

Yeah, as much as I like the guy it looks like he just doesn't understand how to make a point without insulting someone.

 

[Juve_fanatic]

I changed my workout plan 2 weeks ago. I am now only working one body part per day. Considering I go to the gym 5/6 times a week, I feel like I am able to get more out of my routine this way as I'm able to get more exercises and adding weight seems a bit easier.

I used to be too tired to finish my last 2 exercises of the second body part previously. Most times I either ended up decreasing weight or don't do the exercise at all.

I'm thinking of trying creatine. Any recommendations, tips?

You Sir have pretty much discovered the secret of working out in the gym..... You will see much better results by working out this way. I keep telling that to newbies when i see them working out 2 muscles per day....if you are not using any performance enhancers then you can not work out two muscles per day. You only do one. Preferably in this order: chest>triceps>back>biceps>shoulder then you take one or two days rest and in those days you can do your cardio or legs, but you have to rest at least one day, although two days wont do you no harm either.....

 

[ALC]

idk man, that looks like you have to work out everyday. i don't think two muscle groups a day is too much. especially if the muscles are "complimentary" for lack of a better word.

 

[Dostoevsky]

You Sir have pretty much discovered the secret of working out in the gym..... You will see much better results by working out this way. I keep telling that to newbies when i see them working out 2 muscles per day....if you are not using any performance enhancers then you can not work out two muscles per day. You only do one. Preferably in this order: chest>triceps>back>biceps>shoulder then you take one or two days rest and in those days you can do your cardio or legs, but you have to rest at least one day, although two days wont do you no harm either.....

Can't really agree with this. It might work for you, but it doesn't mean it works like that for everyone else. Some people get better results when they frequently hit muscle groups (which is 2-3 times per week). The way you described means you workout one body part per week. I'll do two muscle groups, might hit the muscle less than you, but I'll do 3 more times than you do. Also, when you work on your chest you're automatically hitting triceps as well (with majority of exercises). Same goes for back and biceps.

 

[Suns]

I only work out one muscle group each time. I can't work out two muscle groups, I feel I don't have the right energy for it and when the time comes for the 2nd muscle the workout isn't effective enough. I have been doing this for over a year now and it works perfectly for me. But also I go to the gym at least 5 times a week so I feel like I'm constantly hitting each muscle group anyway.

 

[Juve_fanatic]

Can't really agree with this. It might work for you, but it doesn't mean it works like that for everyone else. Some people get better results when they frequently hit muscle groups (which is 2-3 times per week). The way you described means you workout one body part per week. I'll do two muscle groups, might hit the muscle less than you, but I'll do 3 more times than you do. Also, when you work on your chest you're automatically hitting triceps as well (with majority of exercises). Same goes for back and biceps.

Well, i personally dont do two muscles. Like you said, it is probably an individual thing as it is most of the time when working out....Anyways, these are my freshest pics. I made a brake from working out around two months cause i broke my leg, but i started again some two weeks ago. While we are on the subject, this thread needs more pictures guys. What is the point of talking all the time if no one can see the results. Im sure there are members here browsing this thread who are planning on starting to work out, so they need to see that all this talking actually has some results..... I encourage you all to post pics..... This aint facebook after all....

 

[ALC]

i would but i'm getting too skinny

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looking big btw

 

[Dostoevsky]

I hate taking pics. I hate even more to ask someone to take shots of me.

Btw results are noticeable Filipe especially your back.

 

[Juve_fanatic]

Well, well you feel like it, please post a pic........