Gonzalo Higuaín (47 apps, 8 goals in CL and 43% chance conversion rate) (21 Viewers)

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adRHCP

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I don't understand why they just say that we don't fill our stadium. IIRC every-single-game of 2011/2012 had full atendance, and most of the games this year had too.

Also the revenue for this stadium is bigger than the old and bigger one.

I like Arsenal, as a club and the way the play. But their fans are just soooo pathetic, just keep talking about calciopoli when I'm sure they don't know shit about it. And if we were glory-hunters wouldn't we be supporting one rich as club such as Manchester City, Chelsea, PSG and now Monaco? :boh: I may not be the best to say this since my join-date is from like last year, but I support this club since 2007 and I'm proud of it.

Their arguments are just unsubstantiated.
 

Joe

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Dec 20, 2009
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All fans from other clubs will always bring up calciopoli.

"You guys got caught for match-fixing, how classy."

They're so ignorant they don't even know what they're saying.

Juventus > Arsenal.

If we lose out on Higuain, its because it was on our terms. Higuain wants us more than Arsenal.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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I don't understand why they just say that we don't fill our stadium. IIRC every-single-game of 2011/2012 had full atendance, and most of the games this year had too.

Also the revenue for this stadium is bigger than the old and bigger one.

I like Arsenal, as a club and the way the play. But their fans are just soooo pathetic, just keep talking about calciopoli when I'm sure they don't know shit about it. And if we were glory-hunters wouldn't we be supporting one rich as club such as Manchester City, Chelsea, PSG and now Monaco? :boh: I may not be the best to say this since my join-date is from like last year, but I support this club since 2007 and I'm proud of it.

Their arguments are just unsubstantiated.
yeah we're such glory supporters that we were still supporting our team through Serie B
 

JuveJay

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How do you not see the fault in our approach? We have an agreement with the player. I am not talking about our negotiations. Nor am I saying we need to pay 30m for him. But if he is who we want, and is our number 1 target for this summer, then we owe it to our coach and to the team and fans that we go out and sign him and not make a fool of ourselves for the third year running.

The way I propose we do that is, after finding an agreement with the player, negotiate with his team, but instead of beating around the bush with loan and installment deals we make our offer in outright, just like European teams do.

Right now, it's not about Arsenal offering 3m than what Juve are proposing. It is about Juve not only offering less money but also choosing the terms of that payment, spread over 5 years. Madrid would not ruin relations with us over 3m euros. The player himself has an 'agreement' of some sort with us, so the wages clearly are not a stumbling block, just like they weren't for Aguero and RvP.

To me, if we lose Higuain to Arsenal, then it is our fault. Not because they are offering 3m more to the club or more wages to the player. This deal could and should have been closed with intent because we have been on it with quite the headstart and have a stronger project for Europe. IF this was the player that Conte and Juve wanted we should've gone out there, played hardball, but moved with clear intent, instead of negotiating a lower fee on installments.
We have an agreement with the player? Source that or stop saying it. I've noticed you do this a lot, take 'expert' stories and run with them as fact. According to the English media Wenger got an agreement with him too. It's unofficial chatter at this stage.

I don't know why you keeping talking about loan (?) and installments. Unless you have inside knowledge about our negotiations, if they have even happened. Paying fees in installments is a complete standard, we aren't giving them €25m in one go.

Actually, what are we talking about here? Are we trying to guess what is happening, or are we pretending that what the media reports are facts? You seem to have all the facts to hand, or certainly know a lot more than I do.

As for 'deal should have been closed', it's just bs, now is the normal time for official discussions. I feel like I've said this a million times and it's early June, but the season has just finished. Add in the international midweek games and this weekend is the first real time the player and clubs can discuss officially and freely.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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All fans from other clubs will always bring up calciopoli.

"You guys got caught for match-fixing, how classy."

They're so ignorant they don't even know what they're saying.

Juventus > Arsenal.

If we lose out on Higuain, its because it was on our terms. Higuain wants us more than Arsenal.
so ignorant not to even know that we were later cleared of that :howler: what makes that statement worse is how we've still won more than they have since calciopoli
 

Gian

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Apr 12, 2009
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All fans from other clubs will always bring up calciopoli.

"You guys got caught for match-fixing, how classy."

They're so ignorant they don't even know what they're saying.

Juventus > Arsenal.

If we lose out on Higuain, its because it was on our terms. Higuain wants us more than Arsenal.
It's fucking Arsenal. We can't lose our target to Arsenal. It's like getting beaten 10-0 by Brescia.

We're talking about the laughing stock of European football.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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We have an agreement with the player? Source that or stop saying it. I've noticed you do this a lot, take 'expert' stories and run with them as fact. According to the English media Wenger got an agreement with him too. It's unofficial chatter at this stage.

I don't know why you keeping talking about loan (?) and installments. Unless you have inside knowledge about our negotiations, if they have even happened. Paying fees in installments is a complete standard, we aren't giving them €25m in one go.

Actually, what are we talking about here? Are we trying to guess what is happening, or are we pretending that what the media reports are facts? You seem to have all the facts to hand, or certainly know a lot more than I do.

As for 'deal should have been closed', it's just bs, now is the normal time for official discussions. I feel like I've said this a million times and it's early June, but the season has just finished. Add in the international midweek games and this weekend is the first real time the player and clubs can discuss officially and freely.
You seem to be aware that we had an agreement with RvP and Aguero. Clearly, you didn't have your legal department run through the terms of those contracts. As fans, the sources of information we have access to will always be the same: the press. If you scroll down my post, I've quoted the word agreement, to suggest that we are pretty close to one if we don't already have one, and that again, is more to suggest that he's ok with the personal terms we would be offering him. When Bronzetti, the agent handling this deal talks about close to a 70 percent possibility, you could say that certain filters have been met. Can't see any other reason behind our trips to Madrid over the last month and a half.

We aren't trying to guess anything here. It's pretty clear to me that we are interested in Higuain, which again is information I've deduced from the 'expert' stories and without any inside knowledge. And while I'm well aware that it is standard practice that we won't be buying a player with 25m in one go, it is the intent with which Marrotta will move in this deal. As for the approach, the margin of negotiation is not very big, and Higuain like RvP and Aguero is not somebody who you are not going to have competition for. It may not be the oil clubs, but there are mid level clubs like Tottenham and Arsenal who have shown interest, which has been documented. The player is officially on the market, and knowing our previous track record Marrotta could move faster than the competition shows up since we know that he does not enter bidding wars by his own admission. What we have done instead is spoken to 3 players and chased personal agreements with them without approaching their clubs first.

Again, we will probably close a defender (Ogbonna) before a striker. Deduced from the guesswork in the media reports I come across. Cant say i agree with that. Also now that Arsenal are in the picture, this deal looks harder to crack than it could otherwise have been. But since the reports mean nothing, no point speculating on the little facts we know. Let's just wait and see what happens.
 
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