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Martin

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Obviously, and so is everyone else's.



I disagree. amauri was probably the most clinical finisher in serie A in the first half od the season. Did you forget the way he's save our asses nearly every single game with a last second masterpiece finish?

Look, Trez back in his days was probably one of the best finishers in Europe. But now, he's lost his pace, defenders can easilly mark him and he really offers little to the team.

In all fairness, I've never been a huge fan of Trez but I honestly think Amauri is currently a much better player.
You don't say! :eek:
 

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Jun 13, 2007
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You're having a laugh.

I'd start Trez anyday.

Talent, well Trez has more talent than three Amauris.
Had.

Maybe, not anymore. And in terms of overall skills, you are greatly mistaken. amauri can skip past defenders, he can hold up the ball nicely, create space for his teammates, even deliver a few decent passes. He's just as good in the air as Trez too.

Trez has nothing on Amauri, nothing.
 

Bjerknes

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Amauri is overall the more complete player, but Amauri has never and will never have the finishing ability of Trezeguet. And if both players are healthy there is no doubt Trez is better than Amauri in front of goal even right now.

So when you say more talented, be careful to explain in what areas of the game you mean, because it doesn't look good on your part.
 
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buffon and chiellini add nothing in creativity too but we don't want to sell them...

not all players add something in creatity. every player has a different job. with 11 diegos/camos/giovincos you don't make a team.
What a lame statement. Chiellini is a defender, he's not required to be creative.

Trez is a classic type of striker, goal poachers. These types of strikers are dying out in today's game and soon enough, they won't even exist. You need to have the complete package, it's as simple as that.


Judging by your avatar, I'm not expecting a very unbiased view on your part either.
 

Martin

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Had.

Maybe, not anymore. And in terms of overall skills, you are greatly mistaken. amauri can skip past defenders, he can hold up the ball nicely, create space for his teammates, even deliver a few decent passes. He's just as good in the air as Trez too.

Trez has nothing on Amauri, nothing.
How unbiased.

Nothing, except the small matter of scoring a hell of a lot more goals. Do you know what Amauri's goal tally is for his entire career (according to 'pedia)? 60.

It's just insane to dismiss a player of Trez's stature for Amauri after half of a good season.
 
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Had.

Maybe, not anymore. And in terms of overall skills, you are greatly mistaken. amauri can skip past defenders, he can hold up the ball nicely, create space for his teammates, even deliver a few decent passes. He's just as good in the air as Trez too.

Trez has nothing on Amauri, nothing.
Well that's a point of view: goals, goals, goals !
 

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Amauri is overall the more complete player, but Amauri has never and will never have the finishing ability of Trezeguet. And if both players are healthy there is no doubt Trez is better than Amauri in front of goal even right now.

So when you say more talented, be careful to explain in what areas of the game you mean, because it doesn't look good on your part.
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pierrelb

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buffon and chiellini add nothing in creativity too but we don't want to sell them...

not all players add something in creatity. every player has a different job. with 11 diegos/camos/giovincos you don't make a team.
wow, saying a goalkeeper and centre back add nothing to creativity is just a poor way to make a point.

i think he means that trez is not involved in plays unless he's shooting. iaq and amauri are involved in link up play, trez is known to be out of games until a chance comes his way. he's not going to run wide into space and bring midfielders into the attack. i'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, all i know is it works for him. he's scored a lot of goals this way.
 
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wow, saying a goalkeeper and centre back add nothing to creativity is just a poor way to make a point.

i think he means that trez is not involved in plays unless he's shooting. iaq and amauri are involved in link up play, trez is known to be out of games until a chance comes his way. he's not going to run wide into space and bring midfielders into the attack. i'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, all i know is it works for him. he's scored a lot of goals this way.
Finally, someone who gets the point.

It has worked for him, in the past. I doubt we'll see Trez as a starter next year unless some injury occurs.
 

juve901

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Jul 8, 2008
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Wow, lot of Amauri hating. I think Amauri is really good, and he was dominant the first half the season, everyone has such short memories. I just think that although Amauri is really good, I don't (and didn't) think we needed to get him last summer. We could have used support elsewhere, and we probably would have been able to not only get Diego, but also Rossi this summer. We may still be able to pick Rossi up... but our stacking of strikers is getting ridiculous at this point.

I think if Trez had to go, we can all agree Trez has great talent and still does... but we have to look to the future. And if he had to go, I'd rather see him go and be dominant at Villareal or wherever where he's playing frequently - because what we're not really saying here is that it's very likely we won't see much of him this season at Juve, and the guy can't possibly be happy on the bench.
 

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What a lame statement. Chiellini is a defender, he's not required to be creative.

Trez is a classic type of striker, goal poachers. These types of strikers are dying out in today's game and soon enough, they won't even exist. You need to have the complete package, it's as simple as that.

Judging by your avatar, I'm not expecting a very unbiased view on your part either.
berbatov isn't good??? huntelaar?? gilardino??? did you see last year how good pizzaro was in werder??? i agree that these days you see few teams playing with a poacher but a player that can score 1 goal every 2 matches if he is supported well is not useless...

as for my avatar, ok i like treza, but after all i am a juventino and i care more about my team...

wow, saying a goalkeeper and centre back add nothing to creativity is just a poor way to make a point.

i think he means that trez is not involved in plays unless he's shooting. iaq and amauri are involved in link up play, trez is known to be out of games until a chance comes his way. he's not going to run wide into space and bring midfielders into the attack. i'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, all i know is it works for him. he's scored a lot of goals this way.
i just wanted to show that there are many roles in a team and there is no need every player to add creativity in a team. some need just to be in the right place to score. this of course means that they will have other players that will give them the ball...
 

.zero

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Trez is a classic type of striker, goal poachers. These types of strikers are dying out in today's game and soon enough, they won't even exist. You need to have the complete package, it's as simple as that.
its not as simple as that. the fact that you think that pure scorers are becoming inept in the game is indicating that you have a fixed tactical POV and set philosophy on how the game is supposed to be played.
 
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2 years ago? Trez scored 20 goals in Serie A last season. Amauri will be delighted if he can do that once in his whole career.
That's what I meant when I said two years ago. I consider us to be in 09-10. 07-08 would be 2 years ago, no?

Amauri used to play for teams like Palermo and Chievo, let's not forget that.
 

KB824

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wow, saying a goalkeeper and centre back add nothing to creativity is just a poor way to make a point.

i think he means that trez is not involved in plays unless he's shooting. iaq and amauri are involved in link up play, trez is known to be out of games until a chance comes his way. he's not going to run wide into space and bring midfielders into the attack. i'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, all i know is it works for him. he's scored a lot of goals this way.

I think you are spot on in your assesment.

Look, if they keep Trez, and do a great job of securing the back line, then its possible that the other aspects of his game which are lacking can be covered up by the rest of the squad. I know that 2 years ago, he was starting to get more involved in the build up, and take on more responsibility on the defensive end, but conisdering that he has had injuries to his legs, knees, and what not, who knows if he can do it.

The problem I forsee is what if everything is on equal terms, and he still doesn't beat out Amauri or Iaquinta for a starting spot? How will he react? Will someone of his pedgree and previous track record accept a substitutes role? That is what I love about Iaquinta. He knows his role, he is happy to be here, and when called upon, he usually delivers. I just can't say for sure that Trez would be at ease in a substitutes role.

There is an old adage that goes "A player should never lose his starting job due to injury". Unfortunately, that adage no longer holds true in any sport, anywhere in the world.
 

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That's what I meant when I said two years ago. I consider us to be in 09-10. 07-08 would be 2 years ago, no?

Amauri used to play for teams like Palermo and Chievo, let's not forget that.
And why was he playing for teams like Palermo and Chievo instead of a top team?
 
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