Monster Zero

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Mar 2, 2014
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If we paid 18M to Sass for Zaza then how much do you think we will drop on Berardi - keeping in mind that we didn't offer more than 25M max for Drax before bonuses
35M. Unless there's some sort of deal already made behind the scenes or something.
Juventus have a buy back option for €18 million that they can use in January or at the end of the season to get Berardi.

Also everybody knows that Zaza isn't worth €18 million but it was paid due to our "gentleman's agreement" with Sassuolo. This is turned guaranteed us Berardi without worrying about a bidding war with other top clubs.
Not a single mention about how important Vidal was because he knows that he could have done without selling him. He still did not step back and ask himself why is Allegri having problems fielding his favourite formation. Obviously.
Honestly Vidal is not that important to this team right now - Carlos Tevez on the other hand is.
 

Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
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Tevez, for example said his goodbyes to the team mates, management, fans, everyone.

Vidal's goodbye letter was written by himself, as he wrote it on a whatsapp message and screenshoted it :lol:

 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
80,638
Can we all finally admit that Vidal was uneducated as they come? Beppe offered tuition reimbursement as part of his contract but Vidal never took advantage of the option so what more can we do?

Addressing the poor education system in Chile is too broad of a topic which falls outside the scope of this thread as well
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
7,451
He is a board of director.
Still an employee, gets paid a salary just like any other employee in the club.

Personally I Knew a bank's CEO once who said to me, that as long as he's getting paid a decent salary and stays there for some time he doesn't care if the bank did just ok or really great because to him he owns nothing (some banks CEO get to be paid extra shares as bonuses at the end of the year but he wasn't). So he'll always find excuses for being just average (slow economy, slow growth in their sector...
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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But dismissing or making excuses for poor decision making isn't any better Cammy
No one is dismissing anything. In fact, we can see is what we should be talking about, you know, like failing to sign play X or starting with formation Y when it should be Formation X...but hey, Marotta is a liar because its something evidently common knowledge.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Can we all finally admit that Vidal was uneducated as they come? Beppe offered tuition reimbursement as part of his contract but Vidal never took advantage of the option so what more can we do?

Addressing the poor education system in Chile is too broad of a topic which falls outside the scope of this thread as well
:lol:
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Can we all finally admit that Vidal was uneducated as they come? Beppe offered tuition reimbursement as part of his contract but Vidal never took advantage of the option so what more can we do?

Addressing the poor education system in Chile is too broad of a topic which falls outside the scope of this thread as well
actually chile has a really good education system :D
 
Jun 14, 2011
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this summer marotta had to:
sell pogba for 100 mil instead of vidal for 37
take berardi instead of splashing 40 on dybala with some guarantees of starting regularly
buy darmian who can play both flanks and not overpay for sandro who has got 1 year left on his contract
keep coman and prolonging a loan of Matri, no Zaza needed
allan and saponara could be nice too
if he took Cuadrado, which was fine, he had to go for Ljaich on another flank and let Hernanes rotting in merda
etc.

utterly pathetic unprofessional job
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
69,393
this summer marotta had to:
sell pogba for 100 mil instead of vidal for 37
take berardi instead of splashing 40 on dybala with some guarantees of starting regularly
buy darmian who can play both flanks and not overpay for sandro who has got 1 year left on his contract
keep coman and prolonging a loan of Matri, no Zaza needed
allan and saponara could be nice too
if he took Cuadrado, which was fine, he had to go for Ljaich on another flank and let Hernanes rotting in merda
etc.

utterly pathetic unprofessional job

:tup:
 

Emmet

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Apr 5, 2006
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So according to James Horncastle, we had a contract agreement with Draxler since late July, but the great mans notorious penny-pinching scuppered the deal. Our dreadful start can be directly attributed to Marotta major fuck ups this summer, not Max.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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He even said Vidal wanted to move. And in an interview contradicted himself saying the 'chilean was happy to stay'. Guy doesn't know what to feed the press. He's got almost zero media management skills, and his repertoire and skill set is linked more to saving money on deals and squeezing things down to the last penny. Thats quite a different skill-set to negotiating with big players and big clubs and getting them interested in our project, which incidentally had a lot going for it in the last term, and the best he could get out of that situation was fucking Hernanes. And I'm not even getting started on how Bayern got the better of us this summer.

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So according to James Horncastle, we had a contract agreement with Draxler since late July, but the great mans notorious penny-pinching scuppered the deal. Our dreadful start can be directly attributed to Marotta major fuck ups this summer, not Max.
It doesn't matter when the deal went sour. If he was the main target, which in Marrotta's own words, he was one of the main ones, then there were no excuses not to get him. It also means, he was the kind of player Allegri wanted. We had the money, we made a sale of one of our pillars, and had a remarkable CL campaign to boot, and he couldn't close. There is going to come a season where you are going to be in a position to take that leap in the market, and this was that season. Next year, no CL, probably no Pogba, back to opportunity signings and free loans. This club is never getting out of the rut. If the CL final couldn't change the mindset, nothing will. Pathetic.
 

Juvellino

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Mar 19, 2015
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He even said Vidal wanted to move. And in an interview contradicted himself saying the 'chilean was happy to stay'. Guy doesn't know what to feed the press. He's got almost zero media management skills, and his repertoire and skill set is linked more to saving money on deals and squeezing things down to the last penny. Thats quite a different skill-set to negotiating with big players and big clubs and getting them interested in our project, which incidentally had a lot going for it in the last term, and the best he could get out of that situation was fucking Hernanes. And I'm not even getting started on how Bayern got the better of us this summer.

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It doesn't matter when the deal went sour. If he was the main target, which in Marrotta's own words, he was one of the main ones, then there were no excuses not to get him. It also means, he was the kind of player Allegri wanted. We had the money, we made a sale of one of our pillars, and had a remarkable CL campaign to boot, and he couldn't close. There is going to come a season where you are going to be in a position to take that leap in the market, and this was that season. Next year, no CL, probably no Pogba, back to opportunity signings and free loans. This club is never getting out of the rut. If the CL final couldn't change the mindset, nothing will. Pathetic.
:agree: I couldn't agree more
 

CrimsonianKing

U can't expect an Inexperienced team like Juventus
Jan 16, 2013
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He even said Vidal wanted to move. And in an interview contradicted himself saying the 'chilean was happy to stay'. Guy doesn't know what to feed the press. He's got almost zero media management skills, and his repertoire and skill set is linked more to saving money on deals and squeezing things down to the last penny. Thats quite a different skill-set to negotiating with big players and big clubs and getting them interested in our project, which incidentally had a lot going for it in the last term, and the best he could get out of that situation was fucking Hernanes. And I'm not even getting started on how Bayern got the better of us this summer.

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It doesn't matter when the deal went sour. If he was the main target, which in Marrotta's own words, he was one of the main ones, then there were no excuses not to get him. It also means, he was the kind of player Allegri wanted. We had the money, we made a sale of one of our pillars, and had a remarkable CL campaign to boot, and he couldn't close. There is going to come a season where you are going to be in a position to take that leap in the market, and this was that season. Next year, no CL, probably no Pogba, back to opportunity signings and free loans. This club is never getting out of the rut. If the CL final couldn't change the mindset, nothing will. Pathetic.
:tup:

What scares me the most is this; worst case scenario we get no more CL money and go back to the days of scavenging the average Italians/rejects and what not but then two things have to be taken into consideration;

1. It will be ever harder to find the Pirlos of the world that can ressurect a team.

2. Even if we do this isn't 2011 when only Milan had a decent team and the rest of Serie A was just mediocre. This time we have teams that can actually spend big money and appeal to the top talent of the world. We have teams with sound projects and clear objectives. Our competition is lights years ahead of what it was 4,5 years ago.

We take a step back, which seems to be a big one, while those teams are going forward. I don't need to tell you what could happen to us in the long run.
 

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