Giuseppe Marotta (94 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

RUS, expenses mean jack $#@!

Bring the net spend.

Net spend really doesn't mean that much either unless it takes into account where the money went. Transfers within Serie A should almost be ignored. I would be willing to bet we are miles behind net spend of Spain and England when it comes to amount sold to foreign clubs and amount bought from foreign clubs.

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

RUS, expenses mean jack shit

Bring the net spend.

-216 millions of euro in the past 5 years

 

[only-juve]

What I hoped for since Marotta came here is to have a strategy similar to Bayern Munich one. We already established a solid base of players who won us 3 Serie A titles back to back. It's about time to take it to the next level (what Bayern did 6-7 years ago).

Start to sign the up and coming young talents for 30-40 mil euros every season type of players. We already spent 35 mil this summer on both morata and pereyra. We've spend on average that sum (even more) every season on new players. Problem is, we tend to spread that sum on many players instead of focusing on 1-2 players max every season.

I don't have a time to calculate how much we've spent in the past 4 years (since Marotta arrived here) but I'm pretty sure that in total we've been one of the biggest spenders in Europe (let alone Italy).

 

[Red]

RUS, expenses mean jack shit

Bring the net spend.

For this last summer:

Money spent was ~461m
Money coming in was ~458m

 

[Osman]

except thats simply not true charles, platini, baggio, emerson were all world class players when we bought them and we broke the bank, along with transfer records, to get them. This notion that we suddenly are this high class 'udinese' is not true.

What he said, check the historic records for transfer fees, and you will see through the decades from Baggio time to further back, Juve broke most records consistently, and had in turn lots of golden ball winners and candidates due to it.

 

[Zacheryah]

What I hoped for since Marotta came here is to have a strategy similar to Bayern Munich one. We already established a solid base of players who won us 3 Serie A titles back to back. It's about time to take it to the next level (what Bayern did 6-7 years ago).

Start to sign the up and coming young talents for 30-40 mil euros every season type of players. We already spent 35 mil this summer on both morata and pereyra. We've spend on average that sum (even more) every season on new players. Problem is, we tend to spread that sum on many players instead of focusing on 1-2 players max every season.

I don't have a time to calculate how much we've spent in the past 4 years (since Marotta arrived here) but I'm pretty sure that in total we've been one of the biggest spenders in Europe (let alone Italy).

07/08
+ribery 22mil
+klose 13mil
+jansen 12mil
+breno 10mil
+toni 10mil
+sosa 8mil
-hargraves 22mil
-santa cruz and makaay 8.8mil

08/09
+nothing
-jansen 7mil

09/10
+gomez 26mil
+robben 21mil
+tymoshchuk 10mil
+pjanic 7mil
-podolski 9mil
-lucio 6mil
-hummels 4mil (lol)

10/11
+gustavo 15mil

11/12
+neuer 24mil
+boateng 12mil

12/13
+martinez 35mil
+mandzukic 11mil
+shaqiri 11mil

13/14
+gotze 32mil
+alcantara 22mil
-gustavo 14mil
-gomez 13mil

this summer
+benatia 23mil
+bernat and alonso both 8.8mil
-kroos 26mil
-mandzukic 20mil

Figures are in pound

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For this last summer:

Money spent was ~461m
Money coming in was ~458m

net spend of 3 mil. Now lets see what the net spend in EPL and especially la liga was

 

[Post Ironic]

What he said, check the historic records for transfer fees, and you will see through the decades from Baggio time to further back, Juve broke most records consistently, and had in turn lots of golden ball winners and candidates due to it.

Juve broke the transfer record 5 times which I think is 2nd most by any club ever, behind Real Madrid with 5. However Real Madrid didn't start heavy spending until 1998. Juve and Milan were the world's highest spending clubs in the 80s and 90s

 

[Osman]

Not just them, PSG, Man City have bought more WC players in the last 5 years than we have done for the last 60 years.

Absolute bull.

 

[Osman]

We bought Boniek and Platini in a single summer after they starred on the 3rd and 4th place teams at the 1982 WC. We basically did the exact same thing Madrid just did with James Rodriguez and Toni Kroos (aside from the fact transfer fees were obviously less ridiculous in 1982 even including inflation). We bought them to push us over the hump in Europe, as before the late 1970s Juventus for some reason had pretty much ignored European competition, and that changed with the arrival of Trapattoni in 1976. Under his tenure we were one of the highest spending clubs in all Europe from 1976-1986.

And guess what... Being one of the biggest spending clubs in all of Europe led us to win every single UEFA trophy that was available. In 10 years. 6 Serie A titles. 2 Coppa Italias. 1 European Cup (CL). 1 UEFA Cup (Europa League but more important as was for 2nd place European league teams). 1 UEFA Cup Winners Cup. 1 European Super Cup. 1 Intercontinental Cup. It's still a European record to have won every single possible title, and all within 10 years under a single manager. And we spent a huge amount of money to do so. Which was why that defeat to Hamburg in our first CL final was so disappointing, as we had spent millions over the previous few years. And then redemption against Liverpool.

Don't kid yourselves into thinking Juventus wasn't one of the richest, and biggest spending clubs in Europe in the past. We most certainly were.

This guy knows what's up, similar thing in 50-60s with some of the ambitious spending.

 

[Jem83]

"Crazy" money only really started to appear in football in the 90s, though. And from that point on, we have been more of a moderate spender. There were some big buys from the 90s and onwards by us, but we always kept it sensible. We've never been a club to drastically go overboard with spending or break our budgets.

 

[Osman]

I wasn't trying to say we were buying Ronaldo or Messi. The advent of that type of transfer is a very modern thing. It never existed until the Zidane purchase. However. Paying 50 mil for Buffon in 2002 is easily equivalent to the fee Madrid just spent 12 years later on Rodriguez.

My argument was that we were one of the highest spending clubs in all of Europe for the entire period of the late 70s until our relegation. People are trying to suggest we were never big spenders. We were.

Top posts in this thread bro It's kinda weird to need to educate fellow Juve fans of its club history. I mean we bought likes of Liam Brady and Laudrup as stars at that time only to out them on the bench or loan them out, just in case we would need them if we needed to replace Platini.

 

[Hydde]

That Ciudad Deportiva deal from Real madrid, and the arrival of Ronaldinho and then Messi for Barca, changed football.

We need a gansta deal like that ciudad deportiva one! :drools:

 

[Osman]

"Crazy" money only really started to appear in football in the 90s, though. And from that point on, we have been more of a moderate spender. There were some big buys from the 90s and onwards by us, but we always kept it sensible. We've never been a club to drastically go overboard with spending or break our budgets.

Football didn't start at the 90s, even if it became more business crazy after that.

 

[Jem83]

Football didn't start at the 90s, even if it became more business crazy after that.

I didn't say that.

 

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Italy has no money

 

[Osman]

You guys have been describing the nature and modus operandi of the club based on mid late 90s and beyond almost like that's how the club always been. Hence why it's needed to be pointed out.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I didn't say that.

i think a big part of the confusion is that up until recently there was no 'budget', this was agnellis baby and he would spend whatever he wanted regardless of profitability. The constraints of budgeting came after clubs went public and UEFA imposed loss restrictions.

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You guys have been describing the nature and modus operandi of the club based on mid late 90s and beyond almost like that's how the club always been. Hence why it's needed to be pointed out.

i think some just went too far with the marotta kool aid

 

[Hængebøffer]

You guys have been describing the nature and modus operandi of the club based on mid late 90s and beyond almost like that's how the club always been. Hence why it's needed to be pointed out.

Jem didn't. Italy started the trend with big spending and foreign stars. I think it's fair to start the comparisement from that time.

 

[Jem83]

You guys have been describing the nature and modus operandi of the club based on mid late 90s and beyond almost like that's how the club always been. Hence why it's needed to be pointed out.

But that's because paying a world record transfer fee in this financial climate is very different to what it was in the 60s for instance. By all means, the 60 000 pounds we paid Leeds for Charles in 1958 was a hefty sum, but it still can't be compared to the sums Real Madrid etc. are now throwing around for the likes of Bale and James. The Charles money was well within the Juventus budget at the time, with the backing of FIAT.

It's fine by me if we look at our entire history in this topic of discussion, that's all well and good. But to put more emphasis on the 90s onwards is warranted, due to football having become much more commercial since then.

 

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