mukumsplau

Senior Member
Jul 9, 2008
4,443
Instead of spending 20mil on Morata, 8mil on Romulo, 17 on Pereyra, we could've spend per exemple 30 mil on Griezmann and it would be a much better mercato than this one.
3 players, 3 different positions, 3 upgrades on what we had before that needed to be kicked out, 3 you can count on putting in good work in their roles

or

griezmann (or whoever else 30mil+ purchase) and....and...

for me this is a good mercato so far and we are using resources wisely. we arent at the stage in a technical sense where we can add that 30+ player yet when there are other areas on the pitch that needs some shoring up and will give us different options game to game and during games...

i will not be satisfied throwing all those mills on 1player but other areas lacking....

not satisfied with licht that he can be solely relied on...neither caceres(and i doubt the coach is ) in that position..romulo good option..

evra....solid acquisition i cant begrudge that transfer

morata is a damn good player if you want to argue price i wouldnt be in excess of 3 or 4 mil on his purchase price...coman a no brainer...all of a sudden ppl frown on youth when these two are among some of the most highly rated at present in europe

and ffs the market isnt even over...and competitive games havent even started..who knows, there is also the possibilty that allegri can have the team ticking in a way that u may not even notice that X-factor player
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
Cool, I'll try to learn their names.

There in lies the problem that you don't see and you call out everyone when they don't praise this mercato. Many people wanted and expected to see some offensive solutions to this season. We got nothing of the sort but we still managed to spend 50m on players that we don't really need. Like it or not but stuff like that rubs people the wrong way.

September or not, we're evaluating the mercato up until this day.
We need all these players. Spending all our budget on a single player, while there are lot of gaps to fill, as we got rid of most of our deadwood, doesn't make much sense. That said I'd like to see Shaqiri or Lavezzi here, they might be possible to sign, if their price is between 20-25m. I believe we still have resources for that. We'll see.
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,772
Juventino[RUS];4656153 said:
we are having a dream mercato but people still complain.
we have a different concept of "dream mercato". My dream mercato would have been 2 wingers like Griezmann and Sanchez + Gabbiadini,Berardi and Zaza+Romagnoli and 2 LB Coentrao and Evra.
Selling Llorente,Isla,Vucinic,Giovinco,Quagliarella,Motta,Padoin,Peluso,Sorensen,De Ceglie and one between Ogbonna or Bonucci.
Leaving us with
GK: Buffon,Storari,Rubinho
DF: Caceres,Lichsteiner,Barzagli,Chiellini,Bonucci/Ogbonna,Romagnoli,Evra,Coentrao
MF: Vidal,Pirlo,Pogba,Marchisio,Asamoah,Marrone
AT: Griezmann,Tevez,Sanchez, Gabbiadini,Zaza,Berardi

Cost? 105
Sanchez 35
Griezmann 30
Gabbiadini 5m
Berardi 8m
Zaza 6m
Coentrao 18m
Evra 1,5m
Romagnoli 1,5m

Income? 78m
Llorente 20
Giovinco 10
Vucinic 6,5
Quagliarella 3,5
Padoin 4
Peluso 4,5
De Ceglie 1
Motta 2
Sorensen 3,5
Isla 10
Ogbonna 13

+30 as investments from Juventus Fc.

That would have been my DREAM mercato.
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
5,630
Yes, I'm sure Marotta and Agnelli are doing everything they can to weaken the side. I know it's easy to write some random numbers and names on your keyboard and claim that "it might be possible" but I have a strange feeling that it is not so easy to do in a real world.
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,772
Yes, I'm sure Marotta and Agnelli are doing everything they can to weaken the side. I know it's easy to write some random numbers and names on your keyboard and claim that "it might be possible" but I have a strange feeling that it is not so easy to do in a real world.
lol man we all know it's not so simple! But he claimed we're doing a dream mercato and i wrote down what whould have been my dream mercato.

Anyway last summer we ened up with +6m plus income from mercato and -12m (before tax) wage rise.
Let's see what they'll do this summer.
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
5,630
lol man we all know it's not so simple! But he claimed we're doing a dream mercato and i wrote down what whould have been my dream mercato.

Anyway last summer we ened up with +6m plus income from mercato and -12m (before tax) wage rise.
Let's see what they'll do this summer.
I would be really surprised if we signed someone significant this summer. Recent prices for players are really fucked up and I would be really pissed if we splashed 20m+ for a player like Lavezzi etc (old, high wages, no room for improvement). I think that the model we are following by buying young players with big potential (Morata, Coman) is the right one. We just can't compete financially with arabian, russian and even some english clubs so making sure we can hold on to our stars and produce next ones is the right path. Barcelona did the same some years ago and now they are a super power.
 

Juventinoo

Habibi .. Come to Dubai :)
Oct 20, 2004
3,660
we have a different concept of "dream mercato". My dream mercato would have been 2 wingers like Griezmann and Sanchez + Gabbiadini,Berardi and Zaza+Romagnoli and 2 LB Coentrao and Evra.
Selling Llorente,Isla,Vucinic,Giovinco,Quagliarella,Motta,Padoin,Peluso,Sorensen,De Ceglie and one between Ogbonna or Bonucci.
Leaving us with
GK: Buffon,Storari,Rubinho
DF: Caceres,Lichsteiner,Barzagli,Chiellini,Bonucci/Ogbonna,Romagnoli,Evra,Coentrao
MF: Vidal,Pirlo,Pogba,Marchisio,Asamoah,Marrone
AT: Griezmann,Tevez,Sanchez, Gabbiadini,Zaza,Berardi

Cost? 105
Sanchez 35
Griezmann 30
Gabbiadini 5m
Berardi 8m
Zaza 6m
Coentrao 18m
Evra 1,5m
Romagnoli 1,5m

Income? 78m
Llorente 20
Giovinco 10
Vucinic 6,5
Quagliarella 3,5
Padoin 4
Peluso 4,5
De Ceglie 1
Motta 2
Sorensen 3,5
Isla 10
Ogbonna 13

+30 as investments from Juventus Fc.

That would have been my DREAM mercato.
This is great, on paper only !!! Technically, operations like this in one mercato is impossible

I agree with people saying buy one star better than those ...

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we have a different concept of "dream mercato". My dream mercato would have been 2 wingers like Griezmann and Sanchez + Gabbiadini,Berardi and Zaza+Romagnoli and 2 LB Coentrao and Evra.
Selling Llorente,Isla,Vucinic,Giovinco,Quagliarella,Motta,Padoin,Peluso,Sorensen,De Ceglie and one between Ogbonna or Bonucci.
Leaving us with
GK: Buffon,Storari,Rubinho
DF: Caceres,Lichsteiner,Barzagli,Chiellini,Bonucci/Ogbonna,Romagnoli,Evra,Coentrao
MF: Vidal,Pirlo,Pogba,Marchisio,Asamoah,Marrone
AT: Griezmann,Tevez,Sanchez, Gabbiadini,Zaza,Berardi

Cost? 105
Sanchez 35
Griezmann 30
Gabbiadini 5m
Berardi 8m
Zaza 6m
Coentrao 18m
Evra 1,5m
Romagnoli 1,5m

Income? 78m
Llorente 20
Giovinco 10
Vucinic 6,5
Quagliarella 3,5
Padoin 4
Peluso 4,5
De Ceglie 1
Motta 2
Sorensen 3,5
Isla 10
Ogbonna 13

+30 as investments from Juventus Fc.

That would have been my DREAM mercato.
This is great, on paper only !!! Technically, operations like this in one mercato is impossible

I agree with people saying buy one star better than those ...

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we have a different concept of "dream mercato". My dream mercato would have been 2 wingers like Griezmann and Sanchez + Gabbiadini,Berardi and Zaza+Romagnoli and 2 LB Coentrao and Evra.
Selling Llorente,Isla,Vucinic,Giovinco,Quagliarella,Motta,Padoin,Peluso,Sorensen,De Ceglie and one between Ogbonna or Bonucci.
Leaving us with
GK: Buffon,Storari,Rubinho
DF: Caceres,Lichsteiner,Barzagli,Chiellini,Bonucci/Ogbonna,Romagnoli,Evra,Coentrao
MF: Vidal,Pirlo,Pogba,Marchisio,Asamoah,Marrone
AT: Griezmann,Tevez,Sanchez, Gabbiadini,Zaza,Berardi

Cost? 105
Sanchez 35
Griezmann 30
Gabbiadini 5m
Berardi 8m
Zaza 6m
Coentrao 18m
Evra 1,5m
Romagnoli 1,5m

Income? 78m
Llorente 20
Giovinco 10
Vucinic 6,5
Quagliarella 3,5
Padoin 4
Peluso 4,5
De Ceglie 1
Motta 2
Sorensen 3,5
Isla 10
Ogbonna 13

+30 as investments from Juventus Fc.

That would have been my DREAM mercato.
This is great, on paper only !!! Technically, operations like this in one mercato is impossible

I agree with people saying buy one star better than those ...
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,772
This is great, on paper only !!! Technically, operations like this in one mercato is impossible

I agree with people saying buy one star better than those ...

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This is great, on paper only !!! Technically, operations like this in one mercato is impossible

I agree with people saying buy one star better than those ...

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This is great, on paper only !!! Technically, operations like this in one mercato is impossible

I agree with people saying buy one star better than those ...
WOW triple quote!!! i see you're quite hardcore!
And man i know it's not possibile for us that kind of smart and cool mercato. But it was a reply to Juventino Rus claiming that what we're doing is a Dream Mercato. And i replied what would be my dream mercato.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Look people its very simple

Situation
Our starting 11 is pretty fucking awesome.
Our bench was not good enough last year.
There is a new coach, wich is hated and moaned about, by everyone here that wants big spending, "cause the coach is a recipe for disaster".

Question
Should we spend big on a squad the previous coach should have easely taken into QF CL in normal circumstances ?
Should we spend big and take risks with a new coach of wich all you complainers predict he'll fail horribly ?
Should we again play the same starting 11 every game, knowing how they struggled with it at the end of the season ?
Should we switch to wingers next year

Apparent answers from Marotta
Conte got a squad that was well qualified for CL QF, we dont sell and keep this squat togheter. It should achieve this with normal circumstances
Our bench needs upgrading so the coach can rotate.
Our bench needs a promising forward that can replace llorente/tevez in time. Bitches please, real isnt taking Morata back, they want Falcao's and Ronaldo's.
The new coach has a good enough squad.
I'm not taking risks with this Allegri guy, after i'm done with the bench, i'll add players that we need as stand in wingers in the future.
I bought Coman and i have faith in Berardi and the new attacker to evolve to starting wingers/attackers.
I'll purchase a starting winger when he's to cheap to pass like tevez, or when i can get a loan, or wait for next year when we are certain about the coach.



So please peasant scum, its eighter bitching about Allegri beeing an emminent failure, OR bitching about juventus not taking the risk.
Unless you bleed 6 days every 4 weeks, you cant bitch about both.

You eighter bitch about the lack of dept last year, or bitch about our bench didnt need an upgrade and options for wingers.
Unless you bleed 6 days every 4 weeks, you cant bitch about both.




There. Now lower those testicles like a man in your sack, man the fuck up, and stop bitching for bitching.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,169
I think Coman's performance will make a lot of difference in this mercato. If he succeeds in being a relevant player in the squad from day 1, offering our only option of AM, SS or winger, this may almost justify the lack of a player of that position.

However this is very unlikely since he's just 18 and barely played professional football.

To finish the mercato, Marotta already said they are after 1 CB (like Nastasic, Savic or some other shitic) and 1 forward (someone of an average profile to be our 5th striker, Marotta's words). While I disagree about bringing another CB, our mercato can be already assessed, since the biggest transactions were already made.

Considering that Vidal and Pogba are staying; we offloaded high salaries and washed up players in Vucinic, Quagliarella, Osvaldo, Isla; the squad got younger; We addressed the lingering problem of getting a LB in Evra; Pereyra seems to be a good young CM; Morata seems to have great potential as a CF, one of the top European prospects; Coman is one of the top prospects at his age; Romulo covers a lot of ground and should do better than Isla;

And also considering that the first team got older and that if Evra is to become a starter in the place of Asa, in january 8 of our 11 starters will be 30 or more; Marotta failed to give options of SS/wingers/AM to the squad, considering Coman is just a kid and shouldn't carry the weight to be that option; that Pereyra seems a good replacement for Vidal, but was overpaid and adds depth to a position which already has good depth; Morata has great potential, but was overpayed and there is the high risk of going back to Madrid if he's good; the first team was not improved;

IMO the work Marotta has done so far has good and bad in it. He accomplished some things, didn't accomplish others which could have done, since he already commited to spend more than 50M for the next years. It wasn't total rubbish, but not very good.

I'd say average. 5/10. 6/10 at most.

Unfortunately this is Juventus, where you always expect the best, excellence. Average isn't enough. So from the point of view of fans who always expect excellence, this was poor. From a neutral point of view, it was average. So far.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
Look people its very simple

Situation
Our starting 11 is pretty fucking awesome.
Our bench was not good enough last year.
There is a new coach, wich is hated and moaned about, by everyone here that wants big spending, "cause the coach is a recipe for disaster".

Question
Should we spend big on a squad the previous coach should have easely taken into QF CL in normal circumstances ?
Should we spend big and take risks with a new coach of wich all you complainers predict he'll fail horribly ?
Should we again play the same starting 11 every game, knowing how they struggled with it at the end of the season ?
Should we switch to wingers next year

Apparent answers from Marotta
Conte got a squad that was well qualified for CL QF, we dont sell and keep this squat togheter. It should achieve this with normal circumstances
Our bench needs upgrading so the coach can rotate.
Our bench needs a promising forward that can replace llorente/tevez in time. Bitches please, real isnt taking Morata back, they want Falcao's and Ronaldo's.
The new coach has a good enough squad.
I'm not taking risks with this Allegri guy, after i'm done with the bench, i'll add players that we need as stand in wingers in the future.
I bought Coman and i have faith in Berardi and the new attacker to evolve to starting wingers/attackers.
I'll purchase a starting winger when he's to cheap to pass like tevez, or when i can get a loan, or wait for next year when we are certain about the coach.



So please peasant scum, its eighter bitching about Allegri beeing an emminent failure, OR bitching about juventus not taking the risk.
Unless you bleed 6 days every 4 weeks, you cant bitch about both.

You eighter bitch about the lack of dept last year, or bitch about our bench didnt need an upgrade and options for wingers.
Unless you bleed 6 days every 4 weeks, you cant bitch about both.




There. Now lower those testicles like a man in your sack, man the fuck up, and stop bitching for bitching.
Plenty of gold here and you'll get a lot of flack for this post, but I agree on most points.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,721
My only problem is that we're not bringing in any decent am/winger/ss which we desperately need. If Allegri wants to start with the 352 -fine but what will happen if he decides to go away from it because it won't fetch us planned results? He'll be very restricted then. We're not brining in poor/garbage players; tell you what: I think they're decent/good ones actually but they don't offer possibility of switching from 352 to something else. We need to leave the back door unlocked at least. Allegri has never really used 352 and it should be a good enough argument for that.
:tup:
even if Allegri's future is uncertain, there's a good chance, next coach in charge will find the same limitation with this squad.
 

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