Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
If you are referring to me, then you are clearly the retard. I never said he doesn't deserve credit, but there is reason to remain skeptical and doubtful of his abilities.

He has done well, but the majority of the credit should go to Conte for accomplishing what he has (albeit in a rather weak Serie A), given the quality of the squad at his disposal.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
If you are referring to me, then you are clearly the retard. I never said he doesn't deserve credit, but there is reason to remain skeptical and doubtful of his abilities.

He has done well, but the majority of the credit should go to Conte for accomplishing what he has (albeit in a rather weak Serie A), given the quality of the squad at his disposal.
Not you, but in general.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,960
Oh how typical that these last 2 posts were by people who refuse to give the man any credit whatsoever.


But hey, here's an idea.


Let's hire a new sporting director so that he can dismantle everything and start another revolution.


As if 6 years of it wasn't enough.
:delpiero:

Droppin' knowledge once again. I cannot believe people would still complain after this man CONTRIBUTED to our first meaningful silverware since 2006. It's beyond belief that people would still complain about him, but there you go.

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What he is saying only means that he has nothing to do with the decision of Del Piero, it is totally up to Agnelli.
Which is what we've known all along, that is why I hold no ill will towards Marotta about this. The DP situation is ALL on Agnelli.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,882
Some interesting things in that article. I like how he's almost childlike with excitement, like many of us I imagine.

The board seem to be doing exactly as the Agnelli's did before them, looking at the person as well as the player. So this is therefore a thinly veiled message of "fuck Balotelli"? It's up for debate about who else that would exclude.

He's aware that Van Persie has a year left on his contract, so...:klin:

Borriello is probably going to be purchased for less than the agreed fee.
Who else is excluded? Players like Cassano, Tevez, Suarez, etc :D

Anyway, I know we should judge him based on his actions rather than his words, but I have to admit that those words are exactly what I as a Juve fan like to hear.


Not even a Scudetto can clean out the retardness in this thread.
Don't be silly, I hadn't even posted yet!
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
:delpiero:

Droppin' knowledge once again. I cannot believe people would still complain after this man CONTRIBUTED to our first meaningful silverware since 2006. It's beyond belief that people would still complain about him, but there you go
people will only stop complaining when we won everything, and continue unbeaten for the next 50 years :lol:
 

I am John

The Anallist
May 1, 2012
1,046
“It may seem strange, but a year to settle in was important for Elia. Serie A is different to the Bundesliga and he understood it’s another type of approach. Clearly he needs to play consistently and we are happy to help our players when they ask for that, but there won’t be any meetings until after the Coppa Italia Final.”

So.. Now Elia might questioning why Vidal has so much playing time than him. Bad excuse I would say, but still I respect this man, he's part of the setup that give us the scudetto.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
If you are referring to me, then you are clearly the retard. I never said he doesn't deserve credit, but there is reason to remain skeptical and doubtful of his abilities.

He has done well, but the majority of the credit should go to Conte for accomplishing what he has (albeit in a rather weak Serie A), given the quality of the squad at his disposal.
You have every reason to remain skeptical, because as hard as this is going to believe for some people, I am not totally convinced yet.

Building a team to get to the CL and compete for a Scudetto is one thing (Although I have to admit that I was very pleasantly surprised that the latter did in fact occur), but building a team to stay at the top of the Serie A mountain and compete in the CL is another matter altogether different.


But, he does deserve the chance to do it. He has at least earned that much. Credit needs to be given to him, and this isn't a matter of how much of a percentage of it needs to be doled out between him, conte, and the players, because the fact of the matter is that this was a total team effort.

And let's not forget the fact that this scudetto winning team was primalrily built on players that he brought over the last two years, and I'm not even talking about the ones who were brought in this year.

I am pointing to players such as Barzagli, Bonucci, Matri, Pepe, Quagliarella, who were brought in 2 years ago that all played vital roles, to varying degrees, of the team's success this year.

Barzagli was an absolute revelation, Bonucci found himself in the 2nd half of the year to be the defender that we all hoped he would be, Matri had some vital goals, Pepe was instrumental in this teams success (Please don't faint upon reading that), and Quag, after trying to rediscover himself all season after a bad knee injury, chipped in with some goals as well.

Conte was able to bring out the best aspects in these guys, so were these guys good players all along playing in a very bad system last year, or was it the work of Conte?

I would tend to believe that it was a little bit of both. The players, on their own, might not posess the talent that everyone hopes for, but in the right system, they all turned out to be good to very very good players.


the man deserves some credit here. Yeah, he made some mistakes, but all sporting directors make them. Its a very imperfect science. Elia, for example, was the type of player that was brought in for a 4-2-4 system. That was the system that was going to be used. Conte changed the system, Elia couldn't adapt. Plain and simple.

But every single sporting director makes mistakes. If they didn't, then every team would be great.
 

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