Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,941
One of the better things Marotta did was this:
- Secco left a squad which earned 115m eur a year for wages.
- This January we have a squad which earns 89m eur a year for wages

If nothing else, we did manage to get rid of the dead wood and lower the wage bill by ~25m eur a year without getting worse results on the pitch (quite the opposite. We're doing much better).

Cron already listed many negatives so I won't repeat them. I just wanted to state how not everything's black.
In any case, I think the final calculation should be made on September 1st, if we manage to qualify directly for CL. Only then we can say loud and clear how did Marotta do and how much money he needed to do that.

Right now he's indeed saving some ~25m a year on wages, but he's in whooping 93m eur minus regarding transfer fees (156m for buys and 63m for sales). But this says a little without letting him have the final touch, which can be made only after this season ends successfully for us.
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,086
One of the better things Marotta did was this:
- Secco left a squad which earned 115m eur a year for wages.
- This January we have a squad which earns 89m eur a year for wages

If nothing else, we did manage to get rid of the dead wood and lower the wage bill by ~25m eur a year without getting worse results on the pitch (quite the opposite. We're doing much better).

Cron already listed many negatives so I won't repeat them. I just wanted to state how not everything's black.
In any case, I think the final calculation should be made on September 1st, if we manage to qualify directly for CL. Only then we can say loud and clear how did Marotta do and how much money he needed to do that.

Right now he's indeed saving some ~25m a year on wages, but he's in whooping 93m eur minus regarding transfer fees (156m for buys and 63m for sales). But this says a little without letting him have the final touch, which can be made only after this season ends successfully for us.
You think its Secco who decides to have a 115 million budget? And do you think its Marotta who decides to cut the budget? They get orders of how big the budgets should be. Those two don't do anything and if the board tells them that they can spend more or save money, thats what they'll be forced to do.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I don't "put on" bedroom eyes.

I was born with them
Nice, taking it on the run. :tup:

One of the better things Marotta did was this:
- Secco left a squad which earned 115m eur a year for wages.
- This January we have a squad which earns 89m eur a year for wages

If nothing else, we did manage to get rid of the dead wood and lower the wage bill by ~25m eur a year without getting worse results on the pitch (quite the opposite. We're doing much better).

Cron already listed many negatives so I won't repeat them. I just wanted to state how not everything's black.
In any case, I think the final calculation should be made on September 1st, if we manage to qualify directly for CL. Only then we can say loud and clear how did Marotta do and how much money he needed to do that.

Right now he's indeed saving some ~25m a year on wages, but he's in whooping 93m eur minus regarding transfer fees (156m for buys and 63m for sales). But this says a little without letting him have the final touch, which can be made only after this season ends successfully for us.
I think we still have some room for wages as well. We need to get rid of Grosso too, and of the players that we DIDN'T sell this winter, rather sent on loan (Motta, Pazienza, etc)...are we still paying their wages?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,941
You think its Secco who decides to have a 115 million budget? And do you think its Marotta who decides to cut the budget? They get orders of how big the budgets should be. Those two don't do anything and if the board tells them that they can spend more or save money, thats what they'll be forced to do.
It's not important at all who creates the budget. It's how you use the available money. We are first with less money available.
We started the season with a 100m eur a year for wages (I guess that was the budget). This winter Marotta managed to make the expenses lower so if he's given a 100m eur budget for next year too, he'll have more money to spend.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
You think its Secco who decides to have a 115 million budget? And do you think its Marotta who decides to cut the budget? They get orders of how big the budgets should be. Those two don't do anything and if the board tells them that they can spend more or save money, thats what they'll be forced to do.
So why do you bitch left and right about simply everything where you know for sure that even the people in charge don't have the power to do anything?
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,086
It's not important at all who creates the budget. It's how you use the available money. We are first with less money available.
We started the season with a 100m eur a year for wages (I guess that was the budget). This winter Marotta managed to make the expenses lower so if he's given a 100m eur budget for next year too, he'll have more money to spend.
Yeah, absolutely.

So why do you bitch left and right about simply everything where you know for sure that even the people in charge don't have the power to do anything?
What am I bitching about?
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
We are yet to see how Marotta's best moves, imo pirlo and barzagli, fair on the continental stage
Marchisio's success under Conte as well.

Quite the explosion we have witnessed this season.

Meh, it was written in the stars anyways. Was just a matter of time...
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
You think its Secco who decides to have a 115 million budget? And do you think its Marotta who decides to cut the budget? They get orders of how big the budgets should be. Those two don't do anything and if the board tells them that they can spend more or save money, thats what they'll be forced to do.
indeed, but how they do it is entirely their fault/credit.
For ex Amauri the board and our coach wanted him out since Marotta took over.
Noone expected from Marotta to get back the 25mil investment we made on him, not even half of this money, but how about a quarter?
How about get rid of him a season ago and save up 10 mil on wages and taxes?
How about using Tiagos contract as a bargain chip?
Swap Giovinco with a player worthy of more than the double we got for his half.
Pay for Martinez as any other Italian club would have payed?
Regardless of the guide lines imposed by our board, these fine details are entirely on his hands and he is the only on held responsible for them.
 

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