Giuseppe Marotta (93 Viewers)

[Badass J Elkann]

I gave 3/10 on the mercato i'd like to change that to -3 I was clearly too generous.

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

I gave 3/10 on the mercato i'd like to change that to -3 I was clearly too generous.

Agreed

 

[JuveJay]

We had a winning formula when it comes to defending as an unit, you temper with that and this is what we get. I mean, even Alex Sandro is not having a good season, think about that. He was almost flawless last season.

I get mad when people start talking shit about Bonucci sucking at Milan like a defender is supposed to organize a whole defensive system on his own, a defender isn't an attacker that could dribble past half the other team players, he needs a good system to back him up. Alves offered what no other RB in this generation will offer us, an absolute destructive power going forward and solidity in the back at the same time. I said it from day one, this defense doesn't even touch what we had. And when our attack can't compensate for such a huge loss we realize how much we really fucked up this mercato.

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I mean, Think Guardiola's Barcelona, they didn't have the best defensive unit in the world, in fact, most people thought it was pretty average. But his system allowed his mid and forward players to maintain the ball in their area not taking the risk of testing it's defense. Rarely when a team managed to get through that system, that's when Barcelona conceded. We've seen it happen a couple of times during their peak era.

Today, our defense isn't up to par and neither is our attack. No defensive or offensive system is really working the way it should. One can't and won't compensate for the other.

It's true that if you remove something from a system it will suffer, at least in the short term. It's not about Bonucci, it's because Bonucci is not there when he was for 6 years. Bonucci is not a great defender but he was part of a great defensive unit. That doesn't excuse the team being so poor at the back, players leave and what is left adapts, the coach adapts it. You suck it up because players leaving is part of the game now more than ever.

Allegri so far hasn't got it right. Can be down to injuries or whatever but we have several options and the season is getting on now and no improvement is taking place. Alex Sandro's form is nothing to do with Bonucci leaving or the make up of the defence, the guy is just switched off. You can see that in his play down the entire flank.

I'm convinced that most of the problem comes from midfield. Look at all the best defences and they have a midfield that protects them and makes them look better. Put any defender in a situation where they are facing opponents running directly into space at them and they will suffer.

Yesterday's game should be set apart anyway, that was a complete mental breakdown. Our players dropped their heads at 1-0 and we stood there and watched, it was pathetic. Only when the game was completely lost and the pressure was off did the subs like Costa come on and take a couple of scraps off the table.

I wonder what it is about Marassi that makes our players shit themselves. This was the Genoa of this season. That was Nov 27th last season, when that happened we won 11 of our next 12 games. I wouldn't bet on this current team to do that but you never know with Juve. The fixture list is not at all kind for such a difficult moment.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

It's true that if you remove something from a system it will suffer, at least in the short term. It's not about Bonucci, it's because Bonucci is not there when he was for 6 years. Bonucci is not a great defender but he was part of a great defensive unit. That doesn't excuse the team being so poor at the back, players leave and what is left adapts, the coach adapts it. You suck it up because players leaving is part of the game now more than ever.

Allegri so far hasn't got it right. Can be down to injuries or whatever but we have several options and the season is getting on now and no improvement is taking place. Alex Sandro's form is nothing to do with Bonucci leaving or the make up of the defence, the guy is just switched off. You can see that in his play down the entire flank.

I'm convinced that most of the problem comes from midfield. Look at all the best defences and they have a midfield that protects them and makes them look better. Put any defender in a situation where they are facing opponents running directly into space at them and they will suffer.

Yesterday's game should be set apart anyway, that was a complete mental breakdown. Our players dropped their heads at 1-0 and we stood there and watched, it was pathetic. Only when the game was completely lost and the pressure was offer did the subs like Costa come on and take a couple of scraps off the table.

I wonder what it is about Marassi that makes our players shit themselves. This was the Genoa of this season. That was Nov 27th last season, when that happened we won 11 of our next 12 games. I wouldn't bet on this current team to do that but you never know with Juve. The fixture list is not at all kind for such a difficult moment.

Most of the goals we have conceded so far are directly linked to the midfielders not doing their job.

 

[Hust]

It's true that if you remove something from a system it will suffer, at least in the short term. It's not about Bonucci, it's because Bonucci is not there when he was for 6 years. Bonucci is not a great defender but he was part of a great defensive unit. That doesn't excuse the team being so poor at the back, players leave and what is left adapts, the coach adapts it. You suck it up because players leaving is part of the game now more than ever.

Allegri so far hasn't got it right. Can be down to injuries or whatever but we have several options and the season is getting on now and no improvement is taking place. Alex Sandro's form is nothing to do with Bonucci leaving or the make up of the defence, the guy is just switched off. You can see that in his play down the entire flank.

I'm convinced that most of the problem comes from midfield. Look at all the best defences and they have a midfield that protects them and makes them look better. Put any defender in a situation where they are facing opponents running directly into space at them and they will suffer.

Yesterday's game should be set apart anyway, that was a complete mental breakdown. Our players dropped their heads at 1-0 and we stood there and watched, it was pathetic. Only when the game was completely lost and the pressure was off did the subs like Costa come on and take a couple of scraps off the table.

I wonder what it is about Marassi that makes our players shit themselves. This was the Genoa of this season. That was Nov 27th last season, when that happened we won 11 of our next 12 games. I wouldn't bet on this current team to do that but you never know with Juve. The fixture list is not at all kind for such a difficult moment.

3 man midfield.


People are starting to realize it.

 

[juve123]

3 man midfield.


People are starting to realize it.

What about our full backs our weakest link

 

[Hust]

What about our full backs our weakest link

Stop playing Captain Passback and keep Sandro playing unless he is injured. Keep Licht ('Leaked’) as far away from RB as possible. Höwedes/MDS are back. No excuses now.

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If is backline is indeed the weakest link then all the more reason for an extra man in midfield.

 

[juve123]

Stop playing Captain Passback and keep Sandro playing unless he is injured. Keep Licht (‘Leaked’) as far away from RB as possible. Höwedes/MDS are back. No excuses now.

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If is backline is indeed the weakest link then all the more reason for an extra man in midfield.

Yes but who is going to part of the midfield and can marchisio and pjanic be part of the same midfield

 

[Hust]

Yes but who is going to part of the midfield and can marchisio and pjanic be part of the same midfield

Really?

Why couldn’t Marchisio and pjanic play in midfield?? Throw them on with Matuidi

 

[juve123]

Really?

Why couldn’t Marchisio and pjanic play in midfield?? Throw them on with Matuidi

Yes the problem who will be the box to box midfielder or will allegri have two deep midfielder and khedira who will be the dynamic box to box midfielder

 

[Hust]

Yes the problem who will be the box to box midfielder or will allegri have two deep midfielder and khedira who will be the dynamic box to box midfielder

Khedira shouldn’t be used unless someone’s legs are falling off or we have a commanding lead.

We have bencantur too. May as well see what he is made of. Lol sturaro too

 

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khedira who will be the dynamic box to box midfielder

 

[MikeM]

Beppe, it's either Higuain or Dybala up top. But not both. It doesn't work. They have no chemistry. They are both #9s just taking turns shooting on goal and the defense and build up play is sacrificed too much to accommodate this partnership.

 

[.zero]

It worked last season

 

[zizinho]

It worked last season

We had a WC team in top form behind them

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And Mandzukic and Cuadrado working their asses off

 

[Stephan]

Buy a CF for january, to at least rotate or bring on from bench as backup for Higuain.

I dont understand why we dont think about this. Remember when we had Matri, Quags, Vucinic, Boriello. Yes none were wc, but we had options. Now Higuain plays 90 mins every game.

 

[MikeM]

Did we really reach the final because of the Dybala/Higuain partnership though? It seems like they just took turns having good matches. First Dybala had a good match against Barca and then Higuain vs. Monaco.

Did either of them need each other to do that? That is the question. Does Dybala need Higuain to hit those 2 beautiful shots against Barca?

 

[X Æ A-12]

. Does Dybala need Higuain to hit those 2 beautiful shots against Barca?

Could any other FW have pulled so many defenders away from him

 

[Hydde]

Did we really reach the final because of the Dybala/Higuain partnership though? It seems like they just took turns having good matches. First Dybala had a good match against Barca and then Higuain vs. Monaco.

Did either of them need each other to do that? That is the question. Does Dybala need Higuain to hit those 2 beautiful shots against Barca?

Sadly, i know where u are going and it seems like we simply cant make them work.

 

[Stephan]

Could any other FW have pulled so many defenders away from him

Yes