Klin

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May 27, 2009
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There's no conversation, only you acting like a prepubescent kid. I'm sure you and buddy of yours have a better insight what this club needs than people actually running it and have vast experience in top mgt to back this.
Why did you change your opinion about Vidal now? You were bragging that we won't sell either Pogba or Vidal because this is Juventus.
 

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Mar 10, 2009
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so now people are saying because vidal asked to leave it's okay to sell him for a peanuts.

just like same people said same about tevez.

next you know people will say it's okay to sell pogba for 40m because he asked to leave. and i guess we can sell morata too since he will ask to leave this mess for sure.

and so the domino effect begins. this is why u at least pretend to put up a fight that u want to keep the player. like i said after tevez, we just proved juventus can be anyone toy. just entice the player, and whoop no resistance.
well yeah pretty much
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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It isnt, at all. You dont sell your key engine and force of nature champion for any of those players, and a random nr 10 we cant even name yet..
We'll see about that once the season kicks in, how strong this team will look. If you think that Vidal was a key engine last year than there's nothing to discuss with you.
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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It would have been a different story had we kept Vidal.

But notice the change in their tone, Os. A few days ago they were bragging that Juve, unlike Porto, Atletico and Dortmund, don't sell their best players. Vidal was considered one of our best players a few days ago. Now he's past it.
oh the same people that said it's okay to sell him were the ones making fun of everyone around mid season when some people said vidal should be sold. they were the ones saying how shameful it is to turn on a player after one bad season, and that we are not true fans. now look at them

HYPOCRITES!
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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It would have been a different story had we kept Vidal.

But notice the change in their tone, Os. A few days ago they were bragging that Juve, unlike Porto, Atletico and Dortmund, don't sell their best players. Vidal was considered one of our best players a few days ago. Now he's past it.
Lets wait untill the story about it comes out.



And there will be one, Marotta cant just go and "lol sold vidal".
 

Klin

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Of course it would hurt me too. And the only way this works for me is if Gotze is somehow involved in the deal. But I thought that the offer was 40 including bonuses?

But as far as waiting for other offers to arrive, it is not very common for clubs to come out and announce that a player is for sale. More often than not, and you know this, teams make inquiries for certain players that aren't even perceived to be on the market. In fact you get more clubs saying that certain players are not for sale than saying that they are.

Sure, I would have loved to see them get 50 million for him. Most definitely. My first option is for him not to leave at all. What team out there, theoretically would have taken him? Real Madrid already publicly came out and said they were not interested. Arsenal basically said the same. Barcelona don't need him. Other english clubs? Possibly, but that would have meant that Juve would have had to state that he was available, which is not their style.

It is all just confusing.
Well, obviously I do not expect Marotta to come out and say "Hey you idiots, come and bid for Vidal as he wants to leave".
 

Klin

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We'll see about that once the season kicks in, how strong this team will look. If you think that Vidal was a key engine last year than there's nothing to discuss with you.
He was considered average by us in certain period last season after his injury, but still was MoM in certain matches for certain football experts. That's how awesome Arturo is.

You can't buy or replace heart.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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We'll see about that once the season kicks in, how strong this team will look. If you think that Vidal was a key engine last year than there's nothing to discuss with you.
Newsflash, Vidal has been our best in overall considering the last 4 years in total, he was mediocre last season, due to messed up injury making him play half the player he was for the first awful half of the season. But he went back to his usual level defensively february and onwards (offensively would take a bit more to get groove back), and had basically top level International performance that culminated in a title due to his efforts.

And dfuh he is obviously the engine of the team, kind of effort and box to box effortlessly top class player he has been for a long time doesnt just go away over night. Did you want to sell him before it even became a hint of a news that it was happening? If you say yes, then you have a point for saying stuff like the above, but if no, then you are just adjusting to seeing the positive in it just because it happend, not because its something you wished for, anyone who did its ludicrous really.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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oh the same people that said it's okay to sell him were the ones making fun of everyone around mid season when some people said vidal should be sold. they were the ones saying how shameful it is to turn on a player after one bad season, and that we are not true fans. now look at them

HYPOCRITES!
I really, truly hope that you are not talking about me.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Vidal was the best midfielder the first 3 seasons, had injuryissues in the 4th and lost his offensive output, but found his defensive output back, wich is quite frankly enough.

Be it a good move or not, reality is we did sold our overall best player of the past 4 years
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Why did you change your opinion about Vidal now? You were bragging that we won't sell either Pogba or Vidal because this is Juventus.
We won't sell either to balance our books, but if we can strenghten the team, cover some gaps, sure we might opt to sell one of them. Let's see what we plan to do with cash before prematurely passing our judgment. At this point my guess is as good as yours but I can see the valid reasoning behind this.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Newsflash, Vidal has been our best in overall considering the last 4 years in total, he was mediocre last season, due to messed up injury making him play half the player he was for the first awful half of the season. But he went back to his usual level defensively february and onwards (offensively would take a bit more to get groove back), and had basically top level International performance that culminated in a title due to his efforts.

And dfuh he is obviously the engine of the team, kind of effort and box to box effortlessly top class player he has been for a long time doesnt just go away over night. Did you want to sell him before it even became a hint of a news that it was happening? If you say yes, then you have a point for saying stuff like the above, but if no, then you are just adjusting to seeing the positive in it just because it happend, not because its something you wished for, anyone who did its ludicrous really.
He was gloating that we are not Porto and we won't sell anyone because we're Juve.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Vidal was the best midfielder the first 3 seasons, had injuryissues in the 4th and lost his offensive output, but found his defensive output back, wich is quite frankly enough.

Be it a good move or not, reality is we did sold our overall best player of the past 4 years
Basically this, this is the OBVIOUS reality, but some will try to become more and more revinionistic in a negative light about his immense importance to us just because he is being sold. Coping mechanism I guess.

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He was gloating that we are not Porto and we won't sell anyone because we're Juve.
I dont really memorize his posts (I recall him saying similar stuff of Pogba a little ), but if thats true, I'm not suprised.
 

Klin

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We won't sell either to balance our books, but if we can strenghten the team, cover some gaps, sure we might opt to sell one of them. Let's see what we plan to do with cash before prematurely passing our judgment. At this point my guess is as good as yours but I can see the valid reasoning behind this.
What valid reasoning? How are we gonna improve as a team without him? By getting Sandro and moving Asamoah in midfield? I love Asa, but please. Draxler? Please. No matter how you look at it, we're downgrading.
 

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