Gianluigi Donnarumma - GK - AC Milan (19 Viewers)

[Osman]

You guys keep worrying about the numbers crunch as accountants, me personally I'm just gonna be happy we sign a top class 22 year old italian goalie without a transfer fee, who we can have as key part of the team for decade plus going forward.


I would compare this amount of negativity of us signing him, to if Bayern Munich fans were crazy enough to cry about signing a young Neuer for free from Schalke (except Neuer was 3 years older then donna is now, and Milan way bigger club, so more telling to get their cornerstone player).

 

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[JCK]

Did Nauer stand in the way of buying much needed midfielders for Bayern when that happened? I am not against getting Donnarumma one bit, on the contrary, he is more than welcome but I know what will happen with the midfield mercato afterwards. That's my issue

 

[Elvin]

Imagine that - a player wants to make as much money as possible and doesn't want to stay in a team that has bottled CL qualification for how many years now and instead wants to go to a team that is much better.

He doesn't have to stay here for his whole career. He will either be sold for huge money like Pogba was or nobody will pay him that much and he'll stay here.

I just never got the Raiola hate. He's an employee of his players, not the other way around. He does what an agent is supposed to do, get his players paid. It is up to the players to decide how much they want to get paid and how much they want to stay somewhere. And also up to the club to make sure they are in the best position possible to pay that player or earn some money from him ie. sell him before expiring.

Donnarumma will beat Buffon's Serie A apperances record. Better do it in B&W

 

[DanielSz]

Did Nauer stand in the way of buying much needed midfielders for Bayern when that happened? I am not against getting Donnarumma one bit, on the contrary, he is more than welcome but I know what will happen with the midfield mercato afterwards. That's my issue

do you though?

 

[Xperd]

do you though?

The last three years does support his argument though....

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Did Nauer stand in the way of buying much needed midfielders for Bayern when that happened? I am not against getting Donnarumma one bit, on the contrary, he is more than welcome but I know what will happen with the midfield mercato afterwards. That's my issue

Not just midfield but at fullback as well. Another year of Sandro is going to be disastrous. But I guess Raiola and Donnarumma will solve those problems.

 

[DanielSz]

The last three years does support his argument though....

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Not just midfield but at fullback as well. Another year of Sandro is going to be disastrous. But I guess Raiola and Donnarumma will solve those problems.

Ramsey and Rabiot are among the highest earners at Juve. They invested 20m+ in McKennie. Then there’s Arthur. Most of them haven’t worked out, but that’s not really the argument. Money has been dumped into the position.

 

[Bianconero81]

Too inconsistent for a player demanding such high salary

Sure, but a Donnaruma flapping at crosses like a dehydrated fish is definitely worthy of 10+ million a season.

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Its the salary of the best GKs, among which he is.

Ter Stegen makes 18m. Oblak 10m. De Gea 15m. Alisson signed his contract a couple of years ago for 8, when he renews he will be above 10. Approximately, according to most sources.

If Dybala can get 15m from a different team then it makes sense that he asks for 15m. I don't think he is worth 15m amd don't think the club should offer it as there are enough ways to replace him, but if that is what he is worth for other teams then let him go for it. It has little to do with Donnarumma.

Absolute nonsense.

 

[DAiDEViL]

You guys keep worrying about the numbers crunch as accountants.

Because it'll eat up a lot of money to bring him here, even if he's "free" and will eventually lead to the midfield being neglected once again.

Also IF he get's roughly €10m now, imagine that already crazy number will only go up in the future. Or it's Mino waving goodbye to us. So dreaming of him as some bandiera that could be here for a decade+ is a bit premature.

Overall I think sinking money into a goalkeeper when there are much more pressing issues is just...somethting we do here I guess.

 

[Robee]

Ramsey and Rabiot are among the highest earners at Juve. They invested 20m+ in McKennie. Then there’s Arthur. Most of them haven’t worked out, but that’s not really the argument. Money has been dumped into the position.

Arthur cost us what in actual transfer fee, without the inflated Pjanic part; 20 mil? McKennie, what, 24? Rabiot and Ramsey on a 'free'. I wouldn't call that dumping money on it, at all. Gifting high salaries to undeserved ones, definitely.

 

[DanielSz]

I wouldn't call that dumping money on it, at all. Gifting high salaries to undeserved ones, definitely.

The argument being made is that somehow signing free agent donnarumma will financially prohibit the club from upgrading the midfield. I just don’t see how, especially if (when?) Ronaldo’s wages are off the books.

 

[JuvePerSempre10]

Arthur cost us what in actual transfer fee, without the inflated Pjanic part; 20 mil? McKennie, what, 24? Rabiot and Ramsey on a 'free'. I wouldn't call that dumping money on it, at all. Gifting high salaries to undeserved ones, definitely.

The 20 million is pretty meaningless. We made a 43 million capital gain on Pjanic, but recorded Arthur at 72 million, so that nets out at about 30 million. Additionally, he is going to cost us 20 million a year in amortization. Absolutely absurd numbers especially looking at his contribution so far.

 

[Robee]

The argument being made is that somehow signing free agent donnarumma will financially prohibit the club from upgrading the midfield. I just don’t see how, especially if (when?) Ronaldo’s wages are off the books.

We don't know yet whether or not Ronaldo will leave. But giving the goalie position a 3,5 million upgrade is one of the last things we need now... Unless you count the necessary plusvalenza but then again there's nothing like an actual "free" agent.

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The 20 million is pretty meaningless. We made a 43 million capital gain on Pjanic, but recorded Arthur at 72 million, so that nets out at about 30 million. Additionally, he is going to cost us 20 million a year in amortization. Absolutely absurd numbers especially looking at his contribution so far.

Yeah, that's bloated with Pjanic' value for the plusvalenza sake. We never had that money and we wouldn't have paid it either without Pjanic. Also, I don't think Arthur has triggered many bonusses yet... The 20 mil is definitely not meaningless since we're rescinding contracts left and right.

 

[DanielSz]

We don't know yet whether or not Ronaldo will leave. But giving the goalie position a 3,5 million upgrade is one of the last things we need now...

It’s locking a position up for the next decade, with a premier young talent, on a discount since there’s no transfer fee. Why would anyone be against that?

 

[MikeM]

It’s locking a position up for the next decade, with a premier young talent, on a discount since there’s no transfer fee. Why would anyone be against that?

Nothing is locked up when Raiola is his agent.

 

[JCK]

do you though?

Maybe I don't but I can follow a trend.

 

[X Æ A-12]

You guys keep worrying about the numbers crunch as accountants, me personally I'm just gonna be happy we sign a top class 22 year old italian goalie without a transfer fee, who we can have as key part of the team for decade plus going forward.


I would compare this amount of negativity of us signing him, to if Bayern Munich fans were crazy enough to cry about signing a young Neuer for free from Schalke (except Neuer was 3 years older then donna is now, and Milan way bigger club, so more telling to get their cornerstone player).

Is anyone actually against replacing Tek with Donnarumma though or just concerned that our limited budget could be better put to use in areas that need it more

 

[Juliano13]

If we sign him do we also have to sign his brother?

 

[Robee]

It’s locking a position up for the next decade, with a premier young talent, on a discount since there’s no transfer fee. Why would anyone be against that?

Because we have financial problems while we desperately need midfielders NOW. We've been neglecting midfield for years.

It's actually very obvious we've been doing it wrong by always choosing those 'market opportunities' over actually filling in our needs. And that seems exactly what's going on here... again...

 

[U Picciriddu]

Because we have financial problems while we desperately need midfielders NOW. We've been neglecting midfield for years.

It's actually very obvious we've been doing it wrong by always choosing those 'market opportunities' over actually filling in our needs. And that seems exactly what's going on here... again...

Selling Szczesny and giving Dollar a signing fee, the only financial impact we have is a increase in wages probably. But we get a quality boost (Szczesny isn’t that great, he’s good but not world class, Dollar is better IMO), and we could sell Dollar for a lot more in the future.

 

[JuvePerSempre10]

We don't know yet whether or not Ronaldo will leave. But giving the goalie position a 3,5 million upgrade is one of the last things we need now... Unless you count the necessary plusvalenza but then again there's nothing like an actual "free" agent.

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Yeah, that's bloated with Pjanic' value for the plusvalenza sake. We never had that money and we wouldn't have paid it either without Pjanic. Also, I don't think Arthur has triggered many bonusses yet... The 20 mil is definitely not meaningless since we're rescinding contracts left and right.

Get what you mean. However, even if we rescind his contract, the book value is all that matters, which is 70 million.