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Always spot on
May 6, 2012
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I think that most of the time attempts to recreate a story in a new medium only make me feel the original medium had it better. The classic is of good books and bad movies, of course. But it even applies to things like Sin City: which felt like a movie trying too hard to be a comic book rather than a movie ... and made me just want to read the comic book instead.
I kind of agree. Novel adaptations are often too straightforward and concerned with getting the plot right instead of pushing the boundaries for what film can do.
 

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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Yeah it happens sometimes, and improving on them too. God father was 2 times better then its original books, even if God father 1 left out too much of character details/backstories. But its transcended its original in a big way (wish the made a new movie on Mario Puzo's The sicilian too).
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Yeah it happens sometimes, and improving on them too. God father was 2 times better then its original books, even if God father 1 left out too much of character details/backstories. But its transcended its original in a big way (wish the made a new movie on Mario Puzo's The sicilian too).
I guess you can easily make a case for adaptions trying to be too faithful virtually always end up being average at best. Godfather, Solaris, even something like The Green Mile are rather loosely iirc
 

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May 6, 2012
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Some of the greatest movies ever have been some sort of adaptions.
Obviously. :D It all depends on the vision, but I think it's fair to say that adaptations are often too concerned with just translating the plot from one medium to another medium. Don't get me wrong, I like an easily digestible movie with a nice plot, but I do think it's fair if you're only interested in films that do something that only film as a medium can do.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Obviously. :D It all depends on the vision, but I think it's fair to say that adaptations are often too concerned with just translating the plot from one medium to another medium. Don't get me wrong, I like an easily digestible movie with a nice plot, but I do think it's fair if you're only interested in films that do something that only film as a medium can do.
The World According to Garp is one such example of a successful adaptation that does not follow the novel blindly.

If I rembemer correctly, there's this one scene in the movie where Garp and his wife are looking for a new home. As they are looking at a potential house, a plane crashes straight into it. Garp's immediate reaction is to buy the house, because the statistical likelihood of this ever happening again must be almost zero.

While the scene perfectly corresponds with the entire atmosphere of the novel, I don't think it was actually in it.

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Btw did any of you watch Netflix's Love? The characters from that show were all assholes. I'm not even sure that's what the writers intended.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Anyone watched Vinyl yet? Just watched the first episode. Unbelievably good!
I didn't like it. It tried too hard, and there was almost a Forrest Gump-like approach where they just try to portray the cast against past greats in history as rapid-fire as possible with little investment in the moment.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
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Anyone watched Vinyl yet? Just watched the first episode. Unbelievably good!
I watched the first season and liked it, but not sure I'm gonna watch the second season. When it focused on the music and not the crime element it was fairly enjoyable, but the recreation of some of the past legends was really hit-and-miss.
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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I didn't like it. It tried too hard, and there was almost a Forrest Gump-like approach where they just try to portray the cast against past greats in history as rapid-fire as possible with little investment in the moment.
I watched the first season and liked it, but not sure I'm gonna watch the second season. When it focused on the music and not the crime element it was fairly enjoyable, but the recreation of some of the past legends was really hit-and-miss.
Yeah their rendition of Robert Plant was a little off and probably unnecessary - would he have been, even hypothetically, backstage at Madison Square Garden talking figures with record labels? Probably not.

Ah well. You've sewed the seeds of doubt in my mind now :p I do love Forrest Gump though.
 

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May 6, 2012
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Started watching The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story. The way they force the Kardashian sisters (as kids) into the series by namedropping them and showing their reactions when it serves no purpose is so cringeworthy. :D
 

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L'autista
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Started watching The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story. The way they force the Kardashian sisters (as kids) into the series by namedropping them and showing their reactions when it serves no purpose is so cringeworthy. :D
It's the only way to get people under 25 to watch and give a damn. ;)
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Started watching The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story. The way they force the Kardashian sisters (as kids) into the series by namedropping them and showing their reactions when it serves no purpose is so cringeworthy. :D
I think the purpose is showing what Robert Kardashian's environment thought of his involvement.

I watched the show and I remember the OJ trial, but I was 8 years old iirc. What I thought of it back then is that basically a very famous sports guy killed his ex wife and that he got off because of expensive lawyers.

When I look at it now I realise it's most likely not the lawyers that got him free at all. Rather it's the distrust towards the LAPD, racial riots and a whole lot of shit leading up to an almost inevitable acquittal.

Btw the trial in itself must have been incredible. Keeping a jury sequestered for over half a year? Wtf? And this glove shit, the 'nigger' debates, Fuhrman, DNA evidence.. I doubt there will ever be something like it again.
 

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Always spot on
May 6, 2012
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I think the purpose is showing what Robert Kardashian's environment thought of his involvement.

I watched the show and I remember the OJ trial, but I was 8 years old iirc. What I thought of it back then is that basically a very famous sports guy killed his ex wife and that he got off because of expensive lawyers.

When I look at it now I realise it's most likely not the lawyers that got him free at all. Rather it's the distrust towards the LAPD, racial riots and a whole lot of shit leading up to an almost inevitable acquittal.

Btw the trial in itself must have been incredible. Keeping a jury sequestered for over half a year? Wtf? And this glove shit, the 'nigger' debates, Fuhrman, DNA evidence.. I doubt there will ever be something like it again.
I've only watched two episodes so far, so I don't know if they're going to elaborate on Robert Kardashian's plotline or not, but what his family thought about his involvement seems really trivial. The scene with the Kardashian children watching their father on television, for example, doesn't add anything at all. Sure, they are really short scenes and obviously don't ruin the show, but they feel really out of place. :D

The trial itself is obviously really interesting. I hear there is a 7 hour "30 for 30" about O.J. Simpson on its way too.
 

Gagi

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Jul 19, 2007
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No Fringe fans here? What a great show. Watched it twice. Such a shame it ended after 5 seasons. 8 was the plan I think. John Noble is God. Great actor.

 

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