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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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New Twin Peaks:

I think it became shit. First 4 episodes had frustrating parts but I somehow managed to digest it. It was good... but it had 10-15mins of dull parts. I was hoping that was for a reason as they released all 4 at once, so I was hoping it was a long-ish movie for starters. 5th episode was my hope and it was crushed last night. It was horrible. Firstly, it doesn't remind me one bit of old TW due to too many cities, new era, new characters which I don't even like etc. Secondly, the story is torn in too many parts and not in a good way. I love the confusing and WTF stuff, but this looks like bad directing. Thirdly, I think it's absolutely disgusting how there's 4-7 minutes quality in the episode while the rest of it is dumb, slow and unnecessary piece of shit. You can't have a retarded Cooper for 20-30 min in a casino, sitting like a moron infront of his wife for 5 minutes, sitting in his office for 10 minutes and without a word said. It's not a mystery, it's boring and stupid.

Old Twin Peaks every character great, it had great music, it had a great story, hidden mystery. You can literally watch a 45minute episode and enjoy 45 minutes of it. It was also nostaligic and camera was brilliant. It simply had everything. Now, this new shit, it doesn't even come close. I sit to watch a 45 minute episode and I see 25 minutes of Cooper walking like a moron, standing and barely speaking or just repeating a word or two. It's b-o-r-i-n-g and looks like a below average show. They invest too much time for stupid scenes which aren't even needed so they miss placing the important/old characters. It's... bad. I'm not even happy about it as old Twin Peaks is probably my favorite show ever and they managed to fuck it up. I'll continue watching but right now I can't say I'm even excited about it. Lynch might pull something out of his hat, it might become good once the jailed Cooper goes to black lodge and retarded Cooper comes to himself. But it just shows how these 5 episodes were shit and just a waste of it so I wish he paced up silly parts and skipped over them. There's just 13 episodes left. 5th episode is a disaster. I'm not even kidding. It had 4-7 minutes of good stuff while everything else tore my eyes and made them bleed.
Dude, you went off on it too soon. The two episodes since have been fantastic. Lynch is the master of this shit, spinning out something that feels bizarre and grating and tedious at times, and then all of a sudden, with a flip of the switch, magic, it's grabbed you again, feels super compelling, and even makes the past dreary bits feel more relevant...
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Nobody Speak on Netflix @Osman @Seven

Nice, just added it to my watch list few days ago, you reminded me I need to see it. Trailer makes it seem like a team of bond super villains vs the press, and its prolly exactly what it is :lol:

Not too many new documentaries on netflix lately. Saw Joshua wong one couple weeks ago, and added "get me roger stone" to my watch list (out of sheer fascination on celebrated idiocy, dont think it will be good).
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
59,258
Yes there will, and if you are bored while waiting, I recommend you read the books they are based on. Fairly easy quick reads, Saxon chronicles by bernard Cornwell. The tv series follows the books fairly well, but ofcourse with less depth as you would expect (for example the part where he was a galley slave trying to get free was very long, while tv series its like a half an episode).
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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Part 8 of Twin Peaks: The Return is the most terrifying, disturbing, nightmarish thing I've ever watched on television.

Lynch. :delpiero:
What a masterpiece. Believe it or not, I thought of you while watching and I was like: oh man, PI is gonna shit his pants.

While watching I was thinking how unique the episode is, how different, and how Lynch-filled moments it has. He actually managed to move the borders with this episodes. New generation TV shows will have something to learn from. Just like he moved everything in the 90s with the first tv show, he did it again now. One of the rare episodes I wish they'd last for at least a day lol.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,188
Nice, just added it to my watch list few days ago, you reminded me I need to see it. Trailer makes it seem like a team of bond super villains vs the press, and its prolly exactly what it is :lol:

Not too many new documentaries on netflix lately. Saw Joshua wong one couple weeks ago, and added "get me roger stone" to my watch list (out of sheer fascination on celebrated idiocy, dont think it will be good).

That is pretty much what is.

But what I've never truly understood about American (legal) culture is that, apparently, when you throw enough money at it, you can win most cases. That's not the case in Belgium (and in most of Europe) at all. May have to do with the fact a lot of cases are argued in front of a jury in the States I guess.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
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What a masterpiece. Believe it or not, I thought of you while watching and I was like: oh man, PI is gonna shit his pants.

While watching I was thinking how unique the episode is, how different, and how Lynch-filled moments it has. He actually managed to move the borders with this episodes. New generation TV shows will have something to learn from. Just like he moved everything in the 90s with the first tv show, he did it again now. One of the rare episodes I wish they'd last for at least a day lol.
:agree:

You know. Even though I was pretty damn excited about the return of Twin Peaks, I was worried they would try to replicate the original far too closely, or turn it into episodic Lynch too much like today's prestige TV.

Episode 4 and 5 almost killed me... but I think it's in part based upon our habit of judging episodes individually. Lynch and others have been saying this is more an 18 hour film than 18 one hour episodes of a tv program. And when you look at it that way it all starts coming together, you start to see connections and narrative threads, you start to understand the surreal digressions, the sidesteps, the labyrinth entered. I'm literally going to watch the entire 18 hours over a weekend once it's done.

This episode literally transcended TV, pushed the boundaries and scope so far past anything thus far. It was incredible. Did you feel the 2001: A Space Odyssey vibes from the atomic bomb test-Penderecki's threnody to the victims of Hiroshima part? There was so much Kubrick and Tarkovsky in this episode.

And the woodsman scene to finish was one of the more extraordinary and terrifying bits of television ever. The Abe Lincoln lookalike they chose for the role was just so damn perfect.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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:agree:

You know. Even though I was pretty damn excited about the return of Twin Peaks, I was worried they would try to replicate the original far too closely, or turn it into episodic Lynch too much like today's prestige TV.

Episode 4 and 5 almost killed me... but I think it's in part based upon our habit of judging episodes individually. Lynch and others have been saying this is more an 18 hour film than 18 one hour episodes of a tv program. And when you look at it that way it all starts coming together, you start to see connections and narrative threads, you start to understand the surreal digressions, the sidesteps, the labyrinth entered. I'm literally going to watch the entire 18 hours over a weekend once it's done.

This episode literally transcended TV, pushed the boundaries and scope so far past anything thus far. It was incredible. Did you feel the 2001: A Space Odyssey vibes from the atomic bomb test-Penderecki's threnody to the victims of Hiroshima part? There was so much Kubrick and Tarkovsky in this episode.

And the woodsman scene to finish was one of the more extraordinary and terrifying bits of television ever. The Abe Lincoln lookalike they chose for the role was just so damn perfect.
Top post.

Btw, I don't have much experience with Kubrik but I'll tell you one thing: I felt Tarkovsky alive for the first time outside his movies. I was just talking yesterday to my friends, while drinking a shit coffee, how I wish some of the old/best directors were alive at the moment because I just wonder what would they do the new technology and different concepts. Then I continued and turned to my friend and said: well, that'd be something like Lynch. But I don't think he got me and I was thinking of latest episode especially which was truly something very special.

Oh and I had no idea they said that about the 18h movie part. I never thought about that. And now when I think about it... it makes perfect sense actually.
 

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