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[Bjerknes]

This guy and Cheney led to the destruction of 2 countries with millions killed.
The US is $6 trillion poorer (more or less depending on whom you believe). Thousands of vets disabled or dead. Our infrastructure is in a mess. Ridiculous.

But Trump…

 

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[X Æ A-12]

Because letting Daesh spread was so much better.

But are we asking the important questions like has he been palling around with Michelle Obama?

 

[Fred]

those dictators' (Hussein & Gaddafi and their sick offsprings) terror most definitely did.

I'm no fan of either of those pieces of shit. If you look at my posts in the Libya thread you'd see how much i was against Gedaffi. Still am. But the sad truth is that what replaced both is worse. Sectarian governments, extremist religious groups, in Libya's case a banana state and total anarchy.

As hard as it is to say this, Libya and Iraq were better off with Saddam and Gedaffi in hindsight.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I'm no fan of either of those pieces of shit. If you look at my posts in the Libya thread you'd see how much i was against Gedaffi. Still am. But the sad truth is that what replaced both is worse. Sectarian governments, extremist religious groups, in Libya's case a banana state and total anarchy.

As hard as it is to say this, Libya and Iraq were better off with Saddam and Gedaffi in hindsight.

I'm by no means prophet but when Gaddafi vanished I knew only worse would come. It became kinda popular that you have modernized democracy which brings chaos, corruption and systems that are not possible to recover for at least 30 years. Reminds me 90s and Milosevic. I never liked him, my parents hated him. When people went on the streets to protests there were literally millions on the streets and the energy of "new life" was astonishing. There were so many promises of better and bright future, yet nothing really changed. I feel roots were/are so deep that in order to see changes we need a catastrophe to happen (to older folks).

 

[Fred]

I'm by no means prophet but when Gaddafi vanished I knew only worse would come. It became kinda popular that you have modernized democracy which brings chaos, corruption and systems that are not possible to recover for at least 30 years. Reminds me 90s and Milosevic. I never liked him, my parents hated him. When people went on the streets to protests there were literally millions on the streets and the energy of "new life" was astonishing. There were so many promises of better and bright future, yet nothing really changed. I feel roots were/are so deep that in order to see changes we need a catastrophe to happen (to older folks).

Yes, exactly the same in Libya. First couple of years after Geddaffi people were happy, optimisitc and things seemed to be changing for the better. But after a while, it became clear we never had proper institutions, the populace was largely uneducated, and it was impossible to get all the militia's who fought Geddaffi to drop their weapons and leave things for the voting booth. Its been progressively worse ever since. Now its complete chaos, nobody is in control.

 

[Elvin]

I'm by no means prophet but when Gaddafi vanished I knew only worse would come. It became kinda popular that you have modernized democracy which brings chaos, corruption and systems that are not possible to recover for at least 30 years. Reminds me 90s and Milosevic. I never liked him, my parents hated him. When people went on the streets to protests there were literally millions on the streets and the energy of "new life" was astonishing. There were so many promises of better and bright future, yet nothing really changed. I feel roots were/are so deep that in order to see changes we need a catastrophe to happen (to older folks).

Nothing changed in Serbia because nothing changed in Serbia. Other post-yugoslav states seem to be doing good.

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I'm no fan of either of those pieces of shit. If you look at my posts in the Libya thread you'd see how much i was against Gedaffi. Still am. But the sad truth is that what replaced both is worse. Sectarian governments, extremist religious groups, in Libya's case a banana state and total anarchy.

As hard as it is to say this, Libya and Iraq were better off with Saddam and Gedaffi in hindsight.

But what is the alternative? To live forever under one a crazy dictator? They had to try, it just turned into shit. Ukraine and Georgia had to try and would do even better if the godfather of all dictators Putler didnt intervene. People have to try to dethrone those fucks, even if there are no guarantees how things will turn out.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Nothing changed in Serbia because nothing changed in Serbia. Other post-yugoslav states seem to be doing good.

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But what is the alternative? To live forever under one a crazy dictator? They had to try, it just turned into shit. Ukraine and Georgia had to try and would do even better if the godfather of all dictators Putler didnt intervene. People have to try to dethrone those fucks, even if there are no guarantees how things will turn out.

Yeah but not with foreign "assistance"

 

[Allegri_is_God]

Some nations need stong leaders above them. (Libia, Russia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Belarus....) cuz they can't live other way. They tent to lean on chaos othervise

 

[Elvin]

Some nations need stong leaders above them. (Libia, Russia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Belarus....) cuz they can't live other way. They tent to lean on chaos othervise

This statement is insulting and it's a myth deliberately spread by the propaganda of said "strong" leaders. Every single nation that is free and democratic now, wasnt so in the past.

Funny how strong and corrupt murdering thief have to go hand-in-hand lol

 

[kappa96]

Some nations need stong leaders above them. (Libia, Russia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Belarus....) cuz they can't live other way. They tent to lean on chaos othervise

They need leaders that care about their people, who want to invest in education, not dictators that build golden toilets for themselves while dumbing down their people so they can manipulate them better.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Nothing changed in Serbia because nothing changed in Serbia. Other post-yugoslav states seem to be doing good.

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That's just what you think without any knowledge about this part of Europe. Pretty much all countries are in deep shit bar Slovenia.

 

[Lapa]

They need leaders that care about their people, who want to invest in education, not dictators that build golden toilets for themselves while dumbing down their people so they can manipulate them better.

There's no such thing. Politics only care of themselves. Commies are the worst. Every communist country and human being should be nuked.

 

[Elvin]

That's just what you think without any knowledge about this part of Europe. Pretty much all countries are in deep shit bar Slovenia.

I know that no matter how deep a shit they're in they'd be in even deeper shit under dictatorship.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Every population deserves its leadership

 

[X Æ A-12]

Don't criticize Beetlejuice

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...itics-racist-and-sexist/ar-AALGl7f?li=BBnbcA1

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Reading a little about how their mayoral election works, not sure I'm a fan. I guess it's still better than the one round, two candidate Presidential election though.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Don't criticize Beetlejuice

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...itics-racist-and-sexist/ar-AALGl7f?li=BBnbcA1

What do you expect.

 

[Allegri_is_God]

This statement is insulting and it's a myth deliberately spread by the propaganda of said "strong" leaders. Every single nation that is free and democratic now, wasnt so in the past.

Funny how strong and corrupt murdering thief have to go hand-in-hand lol

My statement is backed up by history and yours......... well by you

 

[Elvin]

My statement is backed up by history and yours......... well by you

No. Your story is backed up by brainwashing benefitting the narrative of said "strong" leaders whose entire purpose is holding on to power and literelly nothing else.

 

[Allegri_is_God]

No. Your story is backed up by brainwashing benefitting the narrative of said "strong" leaders whose entire purpose is holding on to power and literelly nothing else.

Emmm, nooooo. Check the history. History is fact, your words is just how you would like world to be.