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[Ronn]

I am very interested in learning. Returning to the original post I quoted, please educate me.

How did a fringe extremist cult without external and internal support just up and seize power and subjugate the VAST majority that is supposedely so strongly contrasted to them? Level of dichtomy, like Tomice said.

I'm not into the business of educating rookies, but if you're interested I can give you some sources. Iran between two revolutions by Ervand Abrahamian is probably a good start.
The reason I made that statement earlier was you bringing up Safavid era, which is the best example of a cult taking over. When Shah Ismail took over Tabriz he was told that 2/3rd of the city are Sunni Muslims. Yet he converted them all by force. It’s been told that he even persecuted whoever heard someone cursing Omar, and didn’t utter the phrase “bish bad o kam mabad” (more and not less).

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

You seem to have a pretty good grasp on this, Ronn. Where are you from?

 

[Ronn]

You seem to have a pretty good grasp on this, Ronn. Where are you from?

Lol take a guess. Iranian by birth living in the US.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Lol take a guess. Iranian by birth living in the US.

Ohhh, okay, makes sense. Thanks. Just curious.

 

[Elvin]

I'm not into the business of educating rookies, but if you're interested I can give you some sources. Iran between two revolutions by Ervand Abrahamian is probably a good start.
The reason I made that statement earlier was you bringing up Safavid era, which is the best example of a cult taking over. When Shah Ismail took over Tabriz he was told that 2/3rd of the city are Sunni Muslims. Yet he converted them all by force. It’s been told that he even persecuted whoever heard someone cursing Omar, and didn’t utter the phrase “bish bad o kam mabad” (more and not less).

Shah Ismail and the Safavids were Turkic, correct?

 

[Ronn]

Shah Ismail and the Safavids were Turkic, correct?

They were. Safavid come from Ardabil in Azarbaijan province (now Ardabil province). Ismail’s great great great grandfather had a cult-like following in Ardabil and around. His shrine is still there, and is a museum now.

 

[Elvin]

They were. Safavid come from Ardabil in Azarbaijan province (now Ardabil province). Ismail’s great great great grandfather had a cult-like following in Ardabil and around. His shrine is still there, and is a museum now.

Mullah propaganda tries to deny it tho.

 

[Ronn]

Mullah propaganda tries to deny it tho.

If they do they’re doing a very poor job. That shrine is open to the public and it’s in a town where 99% of the people speak Turkish.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Werent safavids kurdish sufis at the onset? The story of abbas puts a lot of things in perspective

 

[satfootball]

mullah were exported from southern lebanon to iran during safavid era.

 

[Elvin]

Werent safavids kurdish sufis at the onset? The story of abbas puts a lot of things in perspective

It has always been fascinating to me how entire peoples went on to change the language they speak entirely. Wonder when it happened last, probably Belorusians.

 

[Ronn]

Werent safavids kurdish sufis at the onset? The story of abbas puts a lot of things in perspective

Sheikh Safi’s family had Kurdish origins but they were established in Ardabil for several generations before Ismail

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Ali Karimi and Vahid Hashemian just got some love on CNN International for supporting the protests.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Iran has started banning/blocking VPNs one-by-one.

Edit: This is a dope thread where techies are talking about ways to counter the issues.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33025954

 

[Goodfella]

I'm not into the business of educating rookies, but if you're interested I can give you some sources. Iran between two revolutions by Ervand Abrahamian is probably a good start.
The reason I made that statement earlier was you bringing up Safavid era, which is the best example of a cult taking over. When Shah Ismail took over Tabriz he was told that 2/3rd of the city are Sunni Muslims. Yet he converted them all by force. It’s been told that he even persecuted whoever heard someone cursing Omar, and didn’t utter the phrase “bish bad o kam mabad” (more and not less).

I know all of this. The cult of Safavi-Shia kuffar took over and genocided Muslims, I know this. Additional to the things you mentioned they commited many other crimes agaist Islam and Muslims.

I didn't understand you initial reaction to what was a genuine question.
"Iran between two revolutions" Will an Armenian commie give me an objective interpretation of those events?

 

[Ronn]

I know all of this. The cult of Safavi-Shia kuffar took over and genocided Muslims, I know this. Additional to the things you mentioned they commited many other crimes agaist Islam and Muslims.

I didn't understand you initial reaction to what was a genuine question.
"Iran between two revolutions" Will an Armenian commie give me an objective interpretation of those events?

I have a feeling you think you’re winding me up, which makes you look like an even bigger idiot.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

HE IS BACK!

How's it going, @Siamak ?

 

[Siamak]

@Siamak how are you doing?

i'm well.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

i'm well.

Foreskin intact? Israel didn't get you, did they?

 

[Siamak]

HE IS BACK!

How's it going, @Siamak ?

i didn't access to the internet. many people has killed by watchdogs of regime, The city has become very strange and unusual, all the streets are full of agents They shooted people directly. threated of prison time and even death. After 6 o'clock, no one dared to go out of the house.