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JuelzSantana

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Clown show. Considering he freed 5000 Taliban prisoners, including some of their top figures, and signed a full withdrawal for May that he was blaming Biden earlier this year for not following :lol:
Let’s be honest, policies aside we do miss Trump the entertainer. The guy was box office AF lmao.

Imagine being hospitilized with covid and throwing yourself a parade:lol:
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Clown show. Considering he freed 5000 Taliban prisoners, including some of their top figures, and signed a full withdrawal for May that he was blaming Biden earlier this year for not following :lol:
Now I completely think Trump is an egotistical incompetent clown. But a broken clock can still be right a couple times a day.

One was questioning the point of the G-7 anymore. Another of those areas was many of Trump's withdrawal plans from foreign wars and policing. Thing is, Trump was more right about Afghanistan than several presidents before him. But thanks to his big mouth and ego now, you'd never know it.

This right there is why it failed

The mission to clean out Tora Bora and terrorist training grounds -- at least until Pakistan harbored them -- was worthy and achievable. But nation building? Is there any successful nation building that wasn't helping with a few logistics after the destruction and then GTFO of the way of the locals?

Didn't the Afghanis learn anything from Todd and Timmy?
:lol: Never forget.

Who said the taliban wouldn’t be fun?

Oh, sure, you say that until a suicide bomber wires up one of those with C-4 in the trunk.

Did you just compare democracy with sharia? :D
In a way, yes. A social system of laws and institutions that's fit-for-purpose in the culture, land, and people. There's a lot to like about democracy, but you could argue the U.S. has its own Taliban (if not multiple) wanting to impose their own Sharia by any other name.

This isn't so much a moral relativistic judgement as much as acknowledgement that social systems that work are highly contextual ... and forcing one on a culture is not even just a bit arrogantly ethnocentric and egotistical, but it's also bound to require bubble gum and paper clips to externally hold together against its will.

Now these latest headlines do seem like something out of the Iraqi Minister of Disinformation:
https://news.sky.com/story/taliban-...n-and-urges-women-to-join-government-12383562
But I would not be surprised if there's a lot of popular support in Afghanistan that we do not know about (how else to explain the complete capitulation?). But the Western playbook will remain to pretend that it's still 2001.
 

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