Gay couples as fit to adopt as heterosexuals: study (22 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

What about incest or polygamy? Those are often consensual.

slightly different, since the argument is 'born with it'

 

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[Trequartista]

slightly different, since the argument is 'born with it'

Oh ok, I missed that part.

Anyways I'm willing to bet that polygamy and incestual marriages are coming. There has already been many cases in Ontario and BC of Muslim polygamous couples claiming the constitutional right to marry, using the same arguments gay marriage advocates have used. I think we'll legalize polygamy in Canada within the next decade. Incest will also follow.

If you say that this is a slippery slope fallacy, well I say that it is not because the slippery slope is only a fallacy when it is not backed by a rational argument. In this case, if you claim, as gay marriage advocates do, that the only criteria for marriage is love rather than the complementarity of the sexes which used to be the rule (a man and a woman), then yes, then not legalizing polygamy and incest is discriminatory.

 

[king Ale]

There are gays that are against gays adopting but ohhh no let's be really loud when we discuss this because "I'm right and you're wrong, you ignorant Moslem caveman" Very similar strategy to ugly naked feminist that like to get in your face on the streets except here you're behind a keyboard.



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And there are women who were/are against women's right to vote. Try harder.

 

[ALC]

Oh ok, I missed that part.

Anyways I'm willing to bet that polygamy and incestual marriages are coming. There has already been many cases in Ontario and BC of Muslim polygamous couples claiming the constitutional right to marry, using the same arguments gay marriage advocates have used. I think we'll legalize polygamy in Canada within the next decade. Incest will also follow.

If you say that this is a slippery slope fallacy, well I say that it is not because the slippery slope is only a fallacy when it is not backed by a rational argument. In this case, if you claim, as gay marriage advocates do, that the only criteria for marriage is love rather than the complementarity of the sexes which used to be the rule (a man and a woman), then yes, then not legalizing polygamy and incest is discriminatory.

I personally don't care if people want to commit incest as long as they're of age. Where that can turn out to be a problem is some psycho breeding his/her kids so they can exploit them sexually like the dude from game of thrones. Homosexuality is adults who meet under normal circumstances, are attracted to each other and are of the same sex.

And polygamy isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned.

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And there are women who were/are against women's right to vote. Try harder.

Boom!

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And there are women who were/are against women's right to vote. Try harder.

Boom!

 

[Zé Tahir]

And there are women who were/are against women's right to vote. Try harder.

You don't get it...there's 2 arguments here...1) Being against homosexuals adopting is not exclusive to Muslims/Islam 2) I have a right to an opinion without this mobbed.

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What do people make of pedophiles who's never acted on their desires? The problem with them is that the people they're attracted to aren't at the age of consent so let's take that out of the scenario here. Do Pedophiles choose to become so or are they born that way?

 

[Trequartista]

I personally don't care if people want to commit incest as long as they're of age. Where that can turn out to be a problem is some psycho breeding his/her kids so they can exploit them sexually like the dude from game of thrones. Homosexuality is adults who meet under normal circumstances, are attracted to each other and are of the same sex.

And polygamy isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned.

I like your honesty.

I'm against both incestual marriages and polygamy because they cause too many issues for society, which is why it has been banned in western society for so long. However, if you're for gay marriage but against these two, then your logically inconsistent.

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You don't get it...there's 2 arguments here...1) Being against homosexuals adopting is not exclusive to Muslims/Islam

Agreed. I'm a Christian and I'm against it, and I was against it when I was an atheist. Religion had no influence on my views on this topic.

2) I have a right to an opinion without this mobbed.

You do, but this should give anyone an idea of how "tolerant" liberals are.

 

[king Ale]

racism, it exists. yes?

letting black people vote changed the definition of voting. did you protest that?

1) quit trying to divert attention from your lack of evidence for the statement you made

2) and no it did not

Martin is making a very good point here and you are dodging it.

1) sometimes a more tangible example helps understand a similar but more controversial one.

2) how do you expect Martin to provide evidence for the discrimination he's talking about when your argument is "no it did not"?

 

[ALC]

@ze why do you keep bringing up pedophilia when talking about homosexuality?

And there's nothing to do against someone with pedophile urges. If they're strong enough not to act on it, they're free to do whatever they want. It's committing the crime that is the problem.

 

[swag]

@ze why do you keep bringing up pedophilia when talking about homosexuality?

Probably some old photos you PMed him.

 

[Zé Tahir]

@ze why do you keep bringing up pedophilia when talking about homosexuality?

And there's nothing to do against someone with pedophile urges. If they're strong enough not to act on it, they're free to do whatever they want. It's committing the crime that is the problem.

Homosexuals are free to do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned as well. I'm not saying them adopting is a crime. I just don't agree with it.

Why do I bring them up? Because one of the fundamental arguments regarding homosexuality is whether or not it's "nature or nurture" and those that chose to accept homosexuality as something normal argue that it's natural. If that is the case...why are pedophiles, necrophiliacs, apotemnophiliacs, etc etc. regarded as people with psychological issues? I think that's a valid question.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Homosexuals are free to do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned as well. I'm not saying them adopting is a crime. I just don't agree with it.

Why do I bring them up? Because one of the fundamental arguments regarding homosexuality is whether or not it's "nature or nurture" and those that chose to accept homosexuality as something normal argue that it's natural. If that is the case...why are pedophiles, necrophiliacs, apotemnophiliacs, etc etc. regarded as people with psychological issues? I think that's a valid question.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES, THEIR BRAIN IS DAMAGED IN SOMEWAY, WHILE GAYS WERE BORN THIS WAY, their brain is working properly

 

[king Ale]

You don't get it...there's 2 arguments here...1) Being against homosexuals adopting is not exclusive to Muslims/Islam 2) I have a right to an opinion without this mobbed.

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What do people make of pedophiles who's never acted on their desires? The problem with them is that the people they're attracted to aren't at the age of consent so let's take that out of the scenario here. Do Pedophiles choose to become so or are they born that way?

I get that. Your example doesn't help your case.

As for pedophilia, people may or may not be born with it, so?

 

[Bjerknes]

Can you be more specific without drawing similarities to pedophiles or whatever sexually disturbed persons?

My wife and her sister were raised in the same family under the same circumstances went to the same school and had lots of common friends, how come one is straight and the other is homosexual?

Her sister is just being a ReBeL. Surely she was not born that way.

 

[swag]

Looking like Jared ain't gonna be adopting anytime soon though...

https://twitter.com/SUBWAY/status/633768668346847232

Eat fresh, Jared, eat fresh.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

when homosexual is having sex with another homosexual they enjoy the process, nothing wrong with it, while pedophilia is abuse, brute force, humiliation and so on, it absolutely wrong to abuse children in any way

 

[Fake Melo]

Looking like Jared ain't gonna be adopting anytime soon though...

https://twitter.com/SUBWAY/status/633768668346847232

Eat fresh, Jared, eat fresh.

 

[Bjerknes]

Looking like Jared ain't gonna be adopting anytime soon though...

https://twitter.com/SUBWAY/status/633768668346847232

Eat fresh, Jared, eat fresh.

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[ALC]

I can't quote you Ze, but yeah they're also born that way.

 

[swag]

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[Trequartista]

when homosexual is having sex with another homosexual they enjoy the process, nothing wrong with it, while pedophilia is abuse, brute force, humiliation and so on, it absolutely wrong to abuse children in any way

That's not what he's saying. He's implying that homosexuality is a mental disorder (which it was according to APA until 1973 when they changed its classification despite no new evidence being found), as pedophilia is.