Gay couples as fit to adopt as heterosexuals: study (1 Viewer)

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Animals can have mental disorders as well ;)
How about this:

Is having kinky sex a mental disorder? The extra shit isn't necessary for evolution, there's pain involved, and it only occurs in a small percentage of the population?

Does liking blowjobs mean you have a mental disorder? They're not necessary for evolution either.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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How about this:

Is having kinky sex a mental disorder? The extra shit isn't necessary for evolution, there's pain involved, and it only occurs in a small percentage of the population?

Does liking blowjobs mean you have a mental disorder? They're not necessary for evolution either.
The homosexuals I know tell me that they're only attracted to guys. That's quite different from liking blowjobs.

I like kinky sex, and it is evolutionarily useless. However, that's not the same as being exclusively attracted to people of the same sex. Apples and oranges.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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The homosexuals I know tell me that they're only attracted to guys. That's quite different from liking blowjobs. Apples and oranges.
I'm talking about your reasoning for homosexuality not being normal and one of the reasons is that it doesn't follow evolution. I understand that everyone has an opinion, just trying to tear yours apart, with all due respect.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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I'd really like to see Gay adoption go ahead...

They would be brilliant dads: they already know where the best parks are, and already know how to put talcum powder on a sore bottom.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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I'm talking about your reasoning for homosexuality not being normal and one of the reasons is that it doesn't follow evolution. I understand that everyone has an opinion, just trying to tear yours apart, with all due respect.
There is a difference between sexual orientation and sexual acts. The norm is for people to be heterosexual because we're engineered for reproduction. You're comparing apples with oranges.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,647
I'd really like to see Gay adoption go ahead...

They would be brilliant dads: they already know where the best parks are, and already know how to put talcum powder on a sore bottom.
:lol:

There is a difference between sexual orientation and sexual acts. The norm is for people to be heterosexual because we're engineered for reproduction. You're comparing apples with oranges.
Yeah, but it's not that simple. Like Hoori said, homosexuals have existed and been part of communities for a long time. In the past, not having their own children, meant that they acted as baby-sitters pretty much. They have played a big role in communities and continue to do so. That's different from a mental disability where acting on your urges cases pain to the rest.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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:lol:



Yeah, but it's not that simple. Like Hoori said, homosexuals have existed and been part of communities for a long time. In the past, not having their own children, meant that they acted as baby-sitters pretty much. They have played a big role in communities and continue to do so. That's different from a mental disability where acting on your urges cases pain to the rest.
How about gender dysphoria?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Great, at least someone who's not a hypocrite. But now you've opened Pandora's box (we'll leave pedo's out of it to make life a bit easier). Law makers nightmare.
Not exactly. Incest is a problem, because it can create severely handicapped children. Pedophilia is a problem because it damages the child, while necrophilia would hurt the family of the deceased. These people are for a big part probably born with their fetish, but are not allowed to act upon it, because we place the mental and physical wellbeing of others above their satisfaction. Gay dex happens between two consenting adults and creates no issues.

This is neither difficult nor complex. It is actually very easy.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Martin is making a very good point here and you are dodging it.

1) sometimes a more tangible example helps understand a similar but more controversial one.

2) how do you expect Martin to provide evidence for the discrimination he's talking about when your argument is "no it did not"?


1) sometimes to understand one has to do his homework and understand how things work instead of going for easy inadequate comparisons

2) that is rich since onus is on him and he got found out red handed making an outlandish non sequitur, but fine i dont mind answering it:

wrong, new 'rights' are created through the amendment process, not judges legislating from the bench
19th amendment look it up

lastly, you really should drop the opinion judge routine if you want to be taken seriously
 
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Martin

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    1) sometimes to understand one has to do his homework and understand how things work instead of going for easy inadequate comparisons

    2) that is rich since onus is on him and he got found out red handed making an outlandish non sequitur, but fine i dont mind answering it:



    19th amendment look it up

    lastly, you really should drop the opinion judge routine if you want to be taken seriously
    it's funny how everyone wants to be a referee

    on this whole forum you are the person who makes the most random non sequiturs, amigo


    this is an interesting discussion topic, but the discussion is going nowhere because noone can agree on the most basic facts. it's pointless
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    it's funny how everyone wants to be a referee

    on this whole forum you are the person who makes the most random non sequiturs, amigo


    this is an interesting discussion topic, but the discussion is going nowhere because noone can agree on the most basic facts. it's pointless
    we are after all the referees ;)



    and yet another unverifiable stat :D but i wont anser in kind

    anyways i am only discussing if the supreme court has the jurisdiction to 'legalize' gay marriage, and the facts as you say support my view, as enron himself conceded.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    anyways i am only discussing if the supreme court has the jurisdiction to 'legalize' gay marriage, and the facts as you say support my view, as enron himself conceded.

    But I didn't see Martin saying that the supreme court has the jurisdiction to legalize gay marriage.

    BTW Chief Justice Roberts said it best:

    "Petitioners make strong arguments rooted in social policy and considerations of fairness. They contend that same-sex couples should be allowed to affirm their love and commitment through marriage, just like opposite-sex couples. That position has undeniable appeal; over the past six years, voters and legislators in eleven States and the District of Columbia have revised their laws to allow marriage between two people of the same sex. But this Court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us. Under the Constitution, judges have power to say what the law is, not what it should be. The people who ratified the Constitution authorized courts to exercise “neither force nor will but merely judgment.”

    Although the policy arguments for extending marriage to same-sex couples may be compelling, the legal arguments for requiring such an extension are not"
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    But I didn't see Martin saying that the supreme court has the jurisdiction to legalize gay marriage.

    BTW Chief Justice Roberts said it best:

    "Petitioners make strong arguments rooted in social policy and considerations of fairness. They contend that same-sex couples should be allowed to affirm their love and commitment through marriage, just like opposite-sex couples. That position has undeniable appeal; over the past six years, voters and legislators in eleven States and the District of Columbia have revised their laws to allow marriage between two people of the same sex. But this Court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us. Under the Constitution, judges have power to say what the law is, not what it should be. The people who ratified the Constitution authorized courts to exercise “neither force nor will but merely judgment.”

    Although the policy arguments for extending marriage to same-sex couples may be compelling, the legal arguments for requiring such an extension are not"
    he did, i said courts dont have the right to change definitions he said no since it happened with voting
     

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