Gay Adoption (6 Viewers)

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Some really warped views in this thread. Shocking and a bit dissapointing too.

I dont see why people being born a certain way should be ridiculed and not treated as equals. Thank fuck I live in a Society thats accepts all people of all races, creeds and sexuality etc. I guess I'm just a bleeding heart Westerner :rolleyes:

Some people in this thread need to go and into the big bad world and actually meet people that are apparently so "different" to them.
 

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Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
Not much of a secret here. Homosexuality is quite spread among the youth, especially in schools. Its like alcohol being banned in Libya, but pretty much anyone can get access to alcohol if they wanted to. I know banning something alone doesn't stop it, there must be other measures too of course.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,709
Not much of a secret here. Homosexuality is quite spread among the youth, especially in schools. Its like alcohol being banned in Libya, but pretty much anyone can get access to alcohol if they wanted to. I know banning something alone doesn't stop it, there must be other measures too of course.
It seems to be a more worthy effort to concentrate effort on issues that really matter, such as the fiscal state of a nation rather than the moral state of a nation.

Anyway, I've said my piece. Later.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,748
I feel no obligation to prove it. Don't really care

Gays just want a root

Even the gays at my workplace who have had relationship of 5 years plus tell me they regularly root others and so do their partners. They don't care, because they're adults and "Agree"
Oh yeah cause straight guys never go out on a weekend and try to fuck as many women as they can? :lol: And straight men/women never cheat on each other either too, :lol:

Its da evil gayzzzzzzzz i tellz u!!!! HOMGZ the sky is falling!!!!!111
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Should single men and women be allowed to adopt children too? Because all the pro arguments I've read so far also helps the idea, if two men can replace a mother in family, probably one men can be mother and father too, as long as the single guy is loving and wealthy.
 

Bezzy

The Bookie Queen
Jun 5, 2010
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Should single men and women be allowed to adopt children too? Because all the pro arguments I've read so far also helps the idea, if two men can replace a mother in family, probably one men can be mother and father too, as long as the single guy is loving and wealthy.
why not? I am raised by only my mother and I don't go that bad at all :)
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
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Should single men and women be allowed to adopt children too? Because all the pro arguments I've read so far also helps the idea, if two men can replace a mother in family, probably one men can be mother and father too, as long as the single guy is loving and wealthy.
Why not? If a single person is capable of supporting a child then there is no reason to forbid them from adopting.

A friend of my wife is single and was allowed to get sperm from a sperm bank, she got pregnant and she has a baby boy now and she is raising him just like any other family be it heterosexual or homosexual.

And a man can never be a mother unless he goes a sex change operation.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
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why not? I am raised by only my mother and I don't go that bad at all :)
The way I see it, allowing single persons to adopt children (perhaps it is allowed in some country, dunno) is making it a normality that a child has only one parent, but it's not. Not having a mother or father isn't a normality, but a situation that can occur in life, it shouldn't be encouraged. I'm sure you may agree on that, even if your experience turned out well (and I'm glad to hear it). :)
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
Why not? If a single person is capable of supporting a child then there is no reason to forbid them from adopting.

A friend of my wife is single and was allowed to get sperm from a sperm bank, she got pregnant and she has a baby boy now and she is raising him just like any other family be it heterosexual or homosexual.

And a man can never be a mother unless he goes a sex change operation.
So by allowing the gay couple adopt a child we admit that the children doesn't need a mother?
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,418
So by allowing the gay couple adopt a child we admit that the children doesn't need a mother?
Why do you insist on the use of the word mother? A child needs someone to take care of him or her, mother father, whatever. It is enough for the child to receive the love and care in a healthy environment. I have a child myself and I know what he needs and I know who can provide that for him.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
Why do you insist on the use of the word mother? A child needs someone to take care of him or her, mother father, whatever. It is enough for the child to receive the love and care in a healthy environment. I have a child myself and I know what he needs and I know who can provide that for him.
As people already pointed out - gay envoiroment most of the times isn't healthy. And we probably have different standarts, I wouldn't want my dad to be gay and have another one instead of my mother. Raising children isn't something were you can settle for the minimum or for the lesser of the evils, like having two fathers instead of no father. I believe the society still should aim for a child to have mother and father and nothing less.
 

Bezzy

The Bookie Queen
Jun 5, 2010
20,828
The way I see it, allowing single persons to adopt children (perhaps it is allowed in some country, dunno) is making it a normality that a child has only one parent, but it's not. Not having a mother or father isn't a normality, but a situation that can occur in life, it shouldn't be encouraged. I'm sure you may agree on that, even if your experience turned out well (and I'm glad to hear it). :)
you can not say that for everyone
some parents both fathers and mothers are such an idiots (in drinking a lot, gamblings problem etc.) then the kids are better of without that parent
but it is true my mother had to many stress, money problems etc for raising me all the time. But for me if I was a parent I think you have to remember one important thing:
'' the kid didn't choice to came here on earth'' and for that only you just have to give love to your kid.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,418
As people already pointed out - gay envoiroment most of the times isn't healthy. And we probably have different standarts, I wouldn't want my dad to be gay and have another one instead of my mother. Raising children isn't something were you can settle for the minimum or for the lesser of the evils, like having two fathers instead of no father. I believe the society still should aim for a child to have mother and father and nothing less.
I didn't get convinced with what was pointed earlier about the gay environment not being healthy as a heterosexual environemtn also can be non-healthy. Generalizations is for the simple minded.
No one here ever mentioned the lesser of two evils actually, I feel sad for you if you interpreted anything of what I said as such.

I believe that the society should aim for a child to have a loving home regardless of how it is built as any home structure can provide the love and care the child asks for. And that's a fact that has been proven numerous numbers of times.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Believe me, you'd have a much healthier society if pre marital sex(not sure you'd agree with this one Rab), alcohol and smoking are all banned. Its like banning drug abuse, its for the good of society. :D
Well I can't speak about other societies but I can tell you that banning drug use has done quite the opposite in the United States at least. All banning drugs in this country has done is make drug lords, gangs and dealers rich while turning average citizens into felons. Banning alcohol in the early 20th century was also a horrible idea that caused a wave of organized crime and violence and was soon scraped and guess what? Alchohol production and demand went way the fuck up.

If you ban premarital sex the country would be in an all out civil war by the end of that day :D
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Banning things doesn't seem to work that well :lol:

edit: It bugs me how some get really long sentences among murderers for dealing with weed.
 

NitK

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2008
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Wow. Pretty sure the basis for this convo/topic was a joke.

Although IZ shooting many peoples ridiculous ideas down was great to read.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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As such, Paedophiles should be free to root kids
No. Again, consent, do we keep having to come back to this? Just because a person develops to have a certain preference or, in the case of pedophilia, a certain problem, does not mean they are allowed to practice it. I am sure there are people out there, normal people, who have unsettling thoughts about children and who are absolutely ashamed of themselves and carry it as a horrible secret, just as there are those who act on it. And just like there are those who fantasise about animals, and those who fantasise about sado-masochism; something happens at a certain point in development to cause this effect in the brain. Unfortunately some people are cursed with really bad ones, whereas others get the acceptable ones.
 

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