Gay Adoption (3 Viewers)

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Being homosexual is not a disease, though. It is just a difference that some people have to live with, and should be allowed to do so as it is not causing anyone any harm any more so than any heterosexual relationship.
I didn't refer to it as a disease. But I believe that it can be treated. You have normal couples not satisfied with their sexual life, they get treated by sexology sessions or any other type of psychological sessions that can help. A gay isn't going to know the difference between sleeping with a woman and sleeping with a man unless he sits down with sexologists professors/doctors and have sessions, people around homosexuals don't usually help, they don't offer advices or anything. Pedophiles are treated, the ones that don't have erections are treated, the ones that are not satisfied sexually or don't have orgasm are treated, it's something normal.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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I didn't refer to it as a disease. But I believe that it can be treated. You have normal couples not satisfied with their sexual life, they get treated by sexology sessions or any other type of psychological sessions that can help. A gay isn't going to know the difference between sleeping with a woman and sleeping with a man unless he sits down with sexologists professors/doctors and have sessions, people around homosexuals don't usually help, they don't offer advices or anything. Pedophiles are treated, the ones that don't have erections are treated, the ones that are not satisfied sexually or don't have orgasm are treated, it's something normal.
If a gay person is happy with himself, why should he seek help?
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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I didn't refer to it as a disease. But I believe that it can be treated. You have normal couples not satisfied with their sexual life anymore, they get treated by sexology sessions or any other type of psychological sessions that can help. A gay isn't going to know the difference between sleeping with a woman and sleeping with a man unless he sits down with sexologists professors/doctors and have sessions, people around homosexuals don't usually help, they don't offer advices or anything. Pedophiles are treated, the ones that don't have erections are treated, the ones that are not satisfied sexually or don't have orgasm are treated, it's something normal.
That is a different kind of problem, though. Those couples already know who they want to sleep with, but they might be having anxiety issues or physical issues. Homosexuals often do know, most of my gay friends have slept with people of the opposite sex and know that they feel nothing when they do so, it is only through sex with members of the same sex that they feel love and excitement. Homosexual desire develops in the same way as heterosexual desire, though many don't even know it until they're older. There is nothing wrong in finding happiness in this way, because you are not hurting anyone else.

The treatment of pedophilia and erectile dysfunction are quite different. In the case of pedophilia you can often help the person cope with their thoughts and abstain from committing the acts, but you often cannot completely eradicate the desire. It is just something that needs to be dealt with because it has serious consequences; if it did not, then I am sure we would not treat it in the same way. With erectile dysfunction it is a physical ailment, which is caused by different circumstances and treated in a different way.
 

swag

L'autista
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I didn't refer to it as a disease. But I believe that it can be treated. You have normal couples not satisfied with their sexual life, they get treated by sexology sessions or any other type of psychological sessions that can help. A gay isn't going to know the difference between sleeping with a woman and sleeping with a man unless he sits down with sexologists professors/doctors and have sessions, people around homosexuals don't usually help, they don't offer advices or anything. Pedophiles are treated, the ones that don't have erections are treated, the ones that are not satisfied sexually or don't have orgasm are treated, it's something normal.
Just like you chose, and can receive treatment, to counter your love of Del Piero and Juve to turn you into an Ibra/Inter fanboy? :p
 

Azzurri7

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That is a different kind of problem, though. Those couples already know who they want to sleep with, but they might be having anxiety issues or physical issues. Homosexuals often do know, most of my gay friends have slept with people of the opposite sex and know that they feel nothing when they do so, it is only through sex with members of the same sex that they feel love and excitement. Homosexual desire develops in the same way as heterosexual desire, though many don't even know it until they're older. There is nothing wrong in finding happiness in this way, because you are not hurting anyone else.

The treatment of pedophilia and erectile dysfunction are quite different. In the case of pedophilia you can often help the person cope with their thoughts and abstain from committing the acts, but you often cannot completely eradicate the desire. It is just something that needs to be dealt with because it has serious consequences; if it did not, then I am sure we would not treat it in the same way. With erectile dysfunction it is a physical ailment, which is caused by different circumstances and treated in a different way.
I disagree. The issues can be more than anxiety issues or physical issues. Even if your gay friends know or feel what they want, they still should be given the chance to sit down with a doctor and try to see why wasn't he satisfied with the opposite sex because I really really really refuse to believe that gays are born gays. It's what they chose to be. There's a big diff.

So are you okay with anything that doesn't hurt anyone?
 

swag

L'autista
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I disagree. The issues can be more than anxiety issues or physical issues. Even if your gay friends know or feel what they want, they still should be given the chance to sit down with a doctor and try to see why wasn't he satisfied with the opposite sex because I really really really refuse to believe that gays are born gays. It's what they chose to be. There's a big diff.
How can you claim that without being gay, though?

Did you actively choose to be a heterosexual? Was there a moment in your life where you came across a crossroads to go one way or the other?

I chose to be heterosexual no more than I chose to like potato chips.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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What about those who screw and fuck animals? They're not harming other people are they? What about those making sex in public places? They're not harming anyone too.
As others have said before in this thread, animal shaggers don't have the consent of the doggie.

Indecent exposure is different from what two guys decide to do behind closed doors.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Is a pedophile born like that too ? Pretty fucked up genes he has.
It's a good question. My guess is that it's part nature, and part nuture. There are perhaps a lot of would-be pedophiles who show self-restraint. It's one thing to like something, but it's quite another to act on it.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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I disagree. The issues can be more than anxiety issues or physical issues. Even if your gay friends know or feel what they want, they still should be given the chance to sit down with a doctor and try to see why wasn't he satisfied with the opposite sex because I really really really refuse to believe that gays are born gays. It's what they chose to be. There's a big diff.

So are you okay with anything that doesn't hurt anyone?
I just cannot agree with you, Rab, I am sorry. Homosexuals do not choose to be what they are, just as I never decided one day that I wanted to have severe anxiety problems. Why would anyone do that? I do see where you are coming from, but I think it is unbelievably wrong to ask someone to try and "treat" their sexuality. It is not detrimental to anyone, and it makes them happy (on a basic level, of course they're not happy when they're being persecuted). There are differing levels of things that need "treatment"; in schools they used to force left-handed children to learn to write with their right hand because left-handedness was wrong, even the word sinister comes from the Latin word for "left" which was associated with evil. But who cares? It doesn't affect anyone else, so people stopped caring. I know that's not a great example, but it's the only one I can come up with right now.

And, in theory, yes I do think that people can do whatever they want so long as it isn't hurting anybody else.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Did you actively choose to be a heterosexual? Was there a moment in your life where you came across a crossroads to go one way or the other?
Seriously? If that's the case then why don't we have more genders? Why getting naturally pregnant comes through Male + Female sexual contact and not male + male?

Human's don't always make the right choices. I'm not saying I'm the one to define what's right from wrong but there's a reason why we have two genders and not one or more than two.
 

Enron

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If a pedophile is the same as everyone else then everyone else has the same impulses as a pedophile. Which isn't true, so yes pedos to have something a miss, whether it is merely brain chemistry or an actual gene that makes those impulses occur we do not know.
 

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