I always wondered about the suits for deadlift as the weights don't jump nearly as high as with BP and Squat. I recall throwing on a BP shirt a few times and once figuring out the groove to follow, my BP rising from 145 kg to 165 kg (BW of 77kg). I never did much training of DL and PL Squat besides as occasional auxiliary training for O. lifting so I don't know all that much about it. I never got to a weight where a double overhand grip without straps failed me. I'm fairly lean as well (179cm and 70kg-77kg fluctuations) so I constantly had quite the battle with back rounding when weight increased to near max/max (somewhere around 180kg for deadlift and for high bar Oly. Squat 170). It was always impressive to see the core thickness and strength of those who can keep a flat back at 250-300kg plus in a DL.
Anyways. This probably belongs in the workout thread. Thanks for the info.
True, i'll give one last answer in this thread :tongue:
Bench suits remove the weakness of the last centimeters before the bar hits the chest. Especially if you know that you need to keep the bar still for a second before going back up. Bench suits basically remove this.
In fact, bench suits require you to pull the weight down because they resist that much. Its all about lockout.
At IPF open, we saw people with~140kg pauzed bench do 100kg more and up
Squatsuits are sortha the same thing. The weakness of squat is getting "out of the hole" above the breaking point. Squat suits act like an elastic band. They give phenomenal rebounce to the hips when sitting down. Coupled with kneewraps wich do the same, the weight goes up dramatically.
For example, my squat pr raw without wraps in competition was 232.5kg. But in training, with ADP strangulators wrapped 8x on a 2 meter wrap, i've done squats around 320-330 kg. Without a suit that is.
Deadlifting, there is the issue. Suits work if you deadlift with straight hollow back, and doesnt add much. But many liftters round the back. Generally, allmost nobody with a conventional deadlift uses a suit, as it works against, it blocks the rounding.
Sumo deadlifters who can keep a straight back even on pr's (cause its their best mechanic) can get up to 20kg out of a suit.
You likely have good strong forearms. With chalk, i can do about 170kg from the ground into 6 shrugs with double overhand and chalk. and then the weight is at my fingertips really. However, i can easely hold 300kg with switched grip and chalk.
But with lifting straps, the issue of weight goes away, as i can do 350 rack pulls double overhand with straps
In general, your grip is generally far ahead if you got good forearms. Improving on that takes a very long time