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Post qualifying weights

Pos. Driver Team Car weight (kg)
1. Button Brawn-Mercedes 660
2. Trulli Toyota 656.5
3. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 647
4. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 664.5
5. Glock Toyota 656.5
6. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 656
7. Webber Red Bull-Renault 656
8. Kubica BMW-Sauber 663
9. Raikkonen Ferrari 662.5
10. Alonso Renault 680.5
11. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 692
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 683.4
13. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 688
14. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 688.9
15. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 670.5
16. Massa Ferrari 689.5
17. Piquet Renault 681.9
18. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 680.5
19. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 655.5
20. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 686.5

Kimi will go further than most of his rivals (Trulli, Glock, Rosberg, Webber). Massa heaviest.
 

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May 11, 2004
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Great to see Mercedes back at the tip top.
Post qualifying weights

Pos. Driver Team Car weight (kg)
1. Button Brawn-Mercedes 660
2. Trulli Toyota 656.5
3. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 647
4. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 664.5
5. Glock Toyota 656.5
6. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 656
7. Webber Red Bull-Renault 656
8. Kubica BMW-Sauber 663
9. Raikkonen Ferrari 662.5
10. Alonso Renault 680.5
11. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 692
12. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 683.4
13. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 688
14. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 688.9
15. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 670.5
16. Massa Ferrari 689.5
17. Piquet Renault 681.9
18. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 680.5
19. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 655.5
20. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 686.5

Kimi will go further than most of his rivals (Trulli, Glock, Rosberg, Webber). Massa heaviest.
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Jun 7, 2004
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    As Formula One's newly-labelled 'lie-gate' scandal continues, Bernie Ecclestone has reminded onlookers of the seriousness of the situation facing the McLaren-Mercedes team. Although the F1 supremo is also confident in believing that the case began as no more than an innocent mistake which has lead to the possibility of severe consequences, with the team now facing the possibility of race bans or even expulsion from this year's World Championship.

    "We need to investigate closer into what went on," the Formula One Management (FOM) head said. "It is about stealing a point and a place, but those are worth money so basically it is fraud, although I am sure it started off more innocently and without thought of the consequences. There are many options open if the charge sticks, and it would be a terrible thing if any team were banned from races, but it could happen. It is not so long ago that McLaren were in front of the FIA World Council, and it is never good for anyone if you are back in court quickly for something similar."


    With the hearing for the diffuser teams set to take place in Paris next Tuesday, the FIA will also be holding an extraordinary meeting on Wednesday 29 April, with the case including the matter of a possible discrediting of the sport as a result of McLaren's actions.

    Ecclestone's mention of fraud refers to the fact that the team seemingly allowed Toyota to retain a penalty, despite knowing more information on the situation than revealed to the stewards. As Jarno Trulli went off the track under safety car conditions in Australia, he was passed by Hamilton. The team then instructed the World Champion to let the Toyota retake its position, which it subsequently did; after the race, Hamilton explained to reporters that the team had asked him to yield the position although, when being questioned by the stewards shortly after, both the driver and team denied this.

    With Hamilton and sporting director Dave Ryan giving the same version of events at a second enquiry in Malaysia, the former then made a public apology for his actions, as he admitted that he had simply followed the instructions of Ryan. With Trulli having been penalised by 25 seconds for the pass, the FIA lifted the penalty and disqualified McLaren immediately after recordings of the team's radio channel (from during the race) revealed clear instructions of the team asking their driver to yield the position.


    The case is made more serious by the fact that McLaren breached the same regulations in 2007, during the 'spy-gate' situation. On that occasion, the team - despite being allowed to continue racing - was thrown out of the constructors' championship as well as receiving a fine of $100m.

    Having now been dismissed, Ryan will not be obliged to join the hearing in Paris, although World Champion Hamilton will be attending. Apart from an overall expulsion, McLaren may risk being banned from races, such as B.A.R in 2005 after the team used fuel as ballast for their car. On that occasion, the team missed two races and McLaren could suffer the same fate, if not with greater effect. It is unlikely, however, that Hamilton could be reprimanded individually, as governing body the FIA has admitted that the focus of the investigation remains on the team itself, following the driver's apology in Malaysia.
     
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    Next week's FIA hearing on diffusers will be one of the most vital moments in this year's World Championship, according to 2007 Champion Kimi Räikkönen. It is true to say that the Finn shares this opinion with almost everybody in the F1 paddock, as the fate of the Brawn, Toyota and Williams teams is set to be decided on Tuesday.

    The issue first sprung up in winter testing, as other constructors began to question the validity of the diffusers on the Williams FW31 and Toyota TF109. The argument of rivals was strengthened with the arrival of the Brawn team to the top of the timesheets at the Circuit de Catalunya on 11 March, as Button and Barrichello firmly stamped their authority on the field.


    Since then, no less than four FIA inspections have cleared the cars in question as legal, despite much wrangling from competitors. "The FIA will decide about the diffusers, and this decision will have an enormous impact on the championship," Ferrari's Räikkönen said. "We're missing grip and downforce; you just need to analyse the performances in the three sectors at Sepang to understand that we're losing a lot compared to the best cars - you could see, especially in the middle sector, where downforce is really crucial.

    Although the diffusers have twice been cleared in protests from Ferrari, Renault, Red Bull and BMW at Albert Park and Sepang, the 'diffuser club' could see all current results wiped away in the event of the FIA International Court of Appeal (ICA) declaring the cars illegal - this would change the championship thus far almost beyond recognition, promoting Fernando Alonso to victory in Melbourne with Nick Heidfeld taking the top position from Malaysia, which would be his first Grand Prix win.


    It has been revealed that representatives of the McLaren team will be attending the hearing over the controversial diffusers used by three teams in Formula One. The FIA International Court of Appeal (ICA) will be dealing with the case on Tuesday, which involves the Brawn, Williams and Toyota teams.

    The news that McLaren will also be attending the hearing comes as a surprise to many, however, as only the Ferrari, Renault, Red Bull and BMW teams have launched official protests over the matter.

    Having been examined during pre-season testing, the diffusers have since been cleared on a number of occasions over the Grand Prix weekends of Australia and Malaysia. The argument is formed as the 'double diffusers' of the cars contain a space in their centre section, allowing airflow to travel more easily through the car, thus resulting in more grip and lower lap times. With rivals stating that this space is not allowed, the teams in question argue that they have taken advantage of a loophole in the regulations which allows the upper and lower sections of the diffuser device to be considered as two parts, rather than one (illegal) component of the car.

    An official statement from McLaren to confirm their attending of the hearing is pending although, as the FIA has announced that all teams bar Toro Rosso and Force India will be present, an explanation from McLaren is likely.
     

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