Fire Chimenti (5 Viewers)

JuveCampione

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2002
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#42
++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++

well how many do you want since Chimenti made about 1 last season and thats clearly not good enough for you
against Dynamo Kiev he had a big mistake. it was more like an own goal. against Man Utd he could have saved that Brown's header and in the USA tour he did a mistake again but was lucky that Forlan missed.
 

Tom

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Oct 30, 2001
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#43
++ [ originally posted by Edgar Davids ] ++


against Dynamo Kiev he had a big mistake. it was more like an own goal. against Man Utd he could have saved that Brown's header and in the USA tour he did a mistake again but was lucky that Forlan missed.
That brown header would not have been saved by any keeper. I'm not buying into all the rubbish that Buffon would have saved it either thats irrelevant. That was certainly not a keeper mistake. I'll have to look at the Kiev one again I don't remember a mistake, but i'll gie it you. Thats ONE mistake. The firendly, well

1... it was a friendly
2... it was THIS season I was talking about how many errors he made LAST season
 

JuveCampione

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Sep 21, 2002
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#45
++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++


That brown header would not have been saved by any keeper. I'm not buying into all the rubbish that Buffon would have saved it either thats irrelevant. That was certainly not a keeper mistake. I'll have to look at the Kiev one again I don't remember a mistake, but i'll gie it you. Thats ONE mistake. The firendly, well

1... it was a friendly
2... it was THIS season I was talking about how many errors he made LAST season
friendly or not it was a mistake.
about the brown's header I guess you right.
Chimenti is a good keeper but not Juve standards. he's nothing near Buffon level.
 

Tom

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Oct 30, 2001
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#46
++ [ originally posted by BloodOnMoral ] ++
Now you have something against my poor English. Didn't studied it in school, excuse me. That's why I'm doing this sort of mistakes often :)
Thats quite alright, thats why we had that misunderstanding :D
 

Tom

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Oct 30, 2001
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#47
++ [ originally posted by Edgar Davids ] ++
friendly or not it was a mistake.
about the brown's header I guess you right.
Chimenti is a good keeper but not Juve standards. he's nothing near Buffon level.
well you often say in other threads not to get too worked up over friendlies! If people play well in friendlies its great but if they play poory they still have time to get on their game. Plus bear in mind that he hardly plays so you can't expect him to play out of his skin.

Of course he's nowhere near buffon's level but he's not supposed to be, he's the sub remember! No point having a world class goalie as sub is there?
 

Zizou

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Apr 21, 2003
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#49
When he used to play for Lecce, he used to save Lecce's games loads of times (who remembers the previous season Lecce-Juve 0-0 with Chimenti producing great saves to keep a clean sheet?). I think he's not as reactive as he was with Lecce because of the lack of playing time. That's normal for all keepers, but hopefully this season Juve will go all the way to the final of Coppa Italia so he can play more games and be always ready when Buffon is injured or suspended ;)

I mean if we had to keep up with Van der Saar as first keeper, we can keep up with Chimenti as reserve keeper ;)
 

Tom

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Oct 30, 2001
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#50
++ [ originally posted by BloodOnMoral ] ++
Yes, but think : what will happend in case of injury ? We'll buy asap a better goalie ? :D
like who btw? Bear in mind that there are very few keepers better than Chimenti who would accept a place on the bench
 

Zizou

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Apr 21, 2003
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#51
Yeah, and don't forget that chimenti did accept this role cos he was a Juve fan since he was a kid, so being there is a dream come true.
 

JuveCampione

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Sep 21, 2002
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#52
++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++


well you often say in other threads not to get too worked up over friendlies! If people play well in friendlies its great but if they play poory they still have time to get on their game. Plus bear in mind that he hardly plays so you can't expect him to play out of his skin.

Of course he's nowhere near buffon's level but he's not supposed to be, he's the sub remember! No point having a world class goalie as sub is there?
surrender :whiteflag: :D
 
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sutnop

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Apr 24, 2003
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  • Thread Starter #53
    SOm gkp need playing time to stay good

    others can sit on the bench for 19 games come in in the 20th and be great obviously Chimenti doesn't belong to the latter type.

    I think Juve should keep this in mind when buying a gkp I would also like to point out that our previews backups for the past 10years have been better then Chimenti
    both Rampulla, Carini and Isaksson are better for being backup gpkp.

    Now I am not talking about Chimenti as a first choice as a first choice he is probably better then the above lot...

    But as a second choice he stinks he can't keep his game up without playing time while other keepers can

    When Arsenal were looking for a new replacement since Manninger had tired they didn't look at first gkp but at
    Rami Shabaan who was second choice for the Animal Farm were the X Juventino keeper Isaksson was first choice.

    Shabaan was no were near the Swedish NT, and when he had his better spells he could give Isaksson a fair fight for his position, but he always played well when called upon

    It is such a GKP we need, Also the GKP should look to resemble Buffon in style and physique since that will make the defending easier for the defenders since they don't have to alter their tactics at Corners etc...

    Chimenti is a reaction keeper and therefor the defense and him don't gel when Buffon is another sort of Keeper...

    The thing about Buffon not being prown to injury
    I don't buy since he both missed WC98 and E2000 because of INjury.

    Thats all from me
     

    Martin

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    Dec 31, 2000
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    #54
    ++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
    When Arsenal were looking for a new replacement since Manninger had tired they didn't look at first gkp but at
    Rami Shabaan who was second choice for the Animal Farm were the X Juventino keeper Isaksson was first choice.
    Is this supposed to be a joke?
     

    Tom

    The DJ
    Oct 30, 2001
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    #55
    ++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
    both Rampulla, Carini and Isaksson are better for being backup gpkp.
    rampulla...retired
    isaksson/carini...young players with potentially great futures, if they stay they have zero chance of first team action for about 8 seasons. In short they won't do it
    Chimenti...old, but not too old, good keeper, juventino
     
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    sutnop

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    Apr 24, 2003
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  • Thread Starter #56
    Alex I was told by a Swedish guy a now that the club that Isaksson plays for Djurgardens translates Animal Farm into English.

    As for what Montero is stating
    I guess you don't understand my point

    our recruitment for a replacement keeper should be a keeper that has been playing as a sub for another club and doing it really well
    for instance Antonioli
    I think is one of the best back ups he can go 10games with Pellizzoli starting and him on the bench and when he comes on he still produces a good and often flawless performance altough he won't save the Impossible balls that World Class keepers as

    Kahn, Buffon, Tomasevski, Yashin and Banks.

    What I am saying is we should get a gkp that is use to being second choice and cosistant rather then a gkp like Chimenti
    Who given the right amount of matches can be quite outstanding
    but just playing some matches here and there is never enough to grab his form,

    I also don't think its such a big lose for Carini or Isaksson or Bonnefoi to be second to Buffon since they get to watch and learn from the best......
     

    Majed

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    Jul 17, 2002
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    #57
    ++ [ originally posted by Sunshine ] ++
    to my understanding Majed was trying to say that we could get either 2 keepers they have apart from Barthez and Howrad.
    Thanks Again Sunshine :)
     

    Martin

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    Dec 31, 2000
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    #58
    ++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
    Alex I was told by a Swedish guy a now that the club that Isaksson plays for Djurgardens translates Animal Farm into English.
    I know, I was just asking. Actually it means zoo, for reasons I don't recall they named one of the islands in Stockholm that, that's where it's from.
     

    Eop05

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    Dec 13, 2002
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    #59
    I can't stand Chimenti.

    If you guys look at the CL game in Old Trafford last year where we outplayed them with our second string team, Chimenti was awful on both goals.

    The goal that was chipped over his head should've been stopped. Either you come out and catch the ball or you stay on your line and save it in front of the net. Instead, Chimenti ran out half way and watched the ball get chipped over his head. Go watch the highlights, you'll see what I'm talkin about.

    The other was a shot that would've been stopped by any decent shot stopper.

    It just seems like every time he's called upon, he lets in every shot that comes his way. And that could've cost us the champions league that game

    Everyone says "Well what the hell do you want??? A star goalie on the bench??"
    No, but I want someone who will get the job done such as Rampulla did or Carini. Hell, anyone but Chimenti.
     

    Tom

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    Oct 30, 2001
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    #60
    so far the only even remotely viable option is antonioli. I have doubts whether he will aceept still being on the bench when he has a few good years left in him though.

    And to repeat there is no way Chimenti was at faut for Brown's goal
     

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