Federico Chiesa - AM RL, SS - Fiorentina (7 Viewers)

[Gigiventus]

So regarding RW, you're OK with one of Kulu and Chiesa on the bench and high salary whereas the team needs addition at other positions? Not to mention we have a bunch of players who can play as RW backup (the word 'backup' is emphasized).

Kulusevski should not compete with Cuadrado. Not his role. He needs to play closer to goal so replacing Cuadrado with Chiesa is ultimately unrelated to Kulusevski.

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why dislike a move for a 22 year old that has more stamina, fitness, and output than Cuadrado and Costa?

Costa is unreliable and Cuadrado is sadly getting old. These are the kind of moves needed to revitaloze the team.

 

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[juventus4life]

See the thread title 'Federico Chiesa - AM RL, SS - Fiorentina'. he's not a RWB.

 

[Gigiventus]

What kind of argument is that lol

See how Pirlo used the RWB role these two games, in fact, see that Iachini is playing Chiesa as a RWB at Fiore presently. That's in a flat 352 that Iachini plays as well, our 343 has the RWB much further up.

Chiesa has a goal and an assist in these two games as a wing back btw.

 

[Gagi]

He played as RWB against Torino (assisted) and Inter (scored)

The kid works hard, has stamina, pace, strength, I think he'd do well in an attacking formations with three at the back. Plus, he's a super versatile player, he can play on both wings, and we could use him in 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 if Pirlo opts for that. The only downside is a reported fee.

 

[MikeM]

We don't use a RWB!!!!

 

[LiquidPLP]

40 pages in this thread and people still think Cheisa will be competing with Kulu for spot.

 

[j0ker]

We don't use a RWB!!!!

What is Cuadrado's position in our current formation then?

 

[Gigiventus]

What is Cuadrado's position in our current formation then?

He is just trying to be dense about the distinction of how our RWB defends as a RM in a 442.

No need to get this specific.

 

[MikeM]

What is Cuadrado's position in our current formation then?

RM.

It's RM in attack and RM in defence. He does not go into a 5 man backline at any point. The defensive shape is a clear 4-4-2.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

there is a reason why not a single serious team use that formation.

 

[Gagi]

Atalanta defends in 4-1-2-1-2, that doesn't make Caldara a defensive mid.

 

[MikeM]

He is just trying to be dense about the distinction of how our RWB defends as a RM in a 442.

No need to get this specific.

There is a clear distinction though because in Fiorentina, Chiesa is going into a 5 man backline like a jabroni. Which is a waste of Chiesa.

In our team he wouldn't do that.

 

[LiquidPLP]

RM.

It's RM in attack and RM in defence. He does not go into a 5 man backline at any point. The defensive shape is a clear 4-4-2.

That suits perfectly Chiesa though. No point in going that much into details.

If Chiesa can do a wingback, then he surely can do RM as he's not lacking attacking attributes at all. He's quite complete as a winger. The question is whether he can bring his level up a bit yet as his current one won't set Europe on fire.

 

[j0ker]

RM.

It's RM in attack and RM in defence. He does not go into a 5 man backline at any point. The defensive shape is a clear 4-4-2.

Even better for Chiesa then.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Don’t know the source, saw it on VS.

 

[Orgut]

But to Kulu and Chiesa, they're RW first and foremost. They can play some other positions but they're at best as RW. Given our current financial situation, if we spend big, we should use the new players at their best strengths.

I dont agree about Chiesa`s position. I see him more of a RWB than a RW.
If you take both as RW then ofcourse I rather have Kulu

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maybe our management has the plan to sell Dybala

I have that feeling as well but I dont think it would happen this year but the next one.
It would be a shame losing a player like him just because no one understand his value

 

[U Picciriddu]

Don’t know the source, saw it on VS.

Looks legit tho. Said this in august:

 

[Orgut]

Kulu did not play as RWB

He played RM you are right but it is still far from the position he should find himself in

 

[juve123]

Looks legit tho. Said this in august:

Are these same experts who said Zaniolo and pogba to juve

 

[MikeM]

For me, Kulusevski is much more of a half-space player, something closer to Dybala.

Chiesa is a classic 4-4-2 outside flank player.

It's very possible, maybe even optimal for them to play together. Chiesa stretches the backline laterally and Kulu can come into that space between the CB and fullback.