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baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
I think the best way to analyze all their positions on the team, is at the end of the season. Pointless just hero worshipping or running these guys down match after match, like we always do. I agree this is one of the weaker attacking line ups in our history, but I doubt there's going to be a revolution to change things drastically, so we need to take stock at the end of the season and shuffle around players based on whose coming in and our financial resources to deal with that, given who we are getting rid of. It could be any one of our four main strikers, but if you're going to sell Quag and get 7m, which may the be reivnested in someone like Osvaldo for example coz its mot a sale thatll generate much, then you maybe better of keeping him given what he brings from the bench and the fact that he's ok playing that role. But if you're going to sell Gio and get 15m, then that goes a long way in finding a replacement, as a starter, and financially too. So its more like for like. Just an example, but you are free to disagree.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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I think the best way to analyze all their positions on the team, is at the end of the season. Pointless just hero worshipping or running these guys down match after match, like we always do. I agree this is one of the weaker attacking line ups in our history, but I doubt there's going to be a revolution to change things drastically, so we need to take stock at the end of the season and shuffle around players based on whose coming in and our financial resources to deal with that, given who we are getting rid of. It could be any one of our four main strikers, but if you're going to sell Quag and get 7m, which may the be reivnested in someone like Osvaldo for example coz its mot a sale thatll generate much, then you maybe better of keeping him given what he brings from the bench and the fact that he's ok playing that role. But if you're going to sell Gio and get 15m, then that goes a long way in finding a replacement, as a starter, and financially too. So its more like for like. Just an example, but you are free to disagree.
We'll have to sell one of our strikers that's for sure and I'm hoping Matri is the first to go, I love the guy but he's just the least talented of our forwards, even if Quags is a bit selfish.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Even still, would you rather lose a player like Matri if say, a player like Osvaldo/ was replacing him? I honestly would not. its relative based on who our targets are. If Marrotta is incapable of getting in anybody else, then I rather we keep this line up with the addition of Llorente. We need to make changes only if we can improve the attack. Let's not make changes for the sake of it, coz while our line up may not be the most prolific forwards in Europe. They work well as a unit and are able to adapt to the difficult situation of Conte's approach, which means lack of continuity and maybe even opportunity. A new forward may nt adapt or have the patience, especially if he isn't a game changing one.
 
Apr 29, 2006
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Even still, would you rather lose a player like Matri if say, a player like Osvaldo/ was replacing him? I honestly would not. its relative based on who our targets are. If Marrotta is incapable of getting in anybody else, then I rather we keep this line up with the addition of Llorente. We need to make changes only if we can improve the attack. Let's not make changes for the sake of it, coz while our line up may not be the most prolific forwards in Europe. They work well as a unit and are able to adapt to the difficult situation of Conte's approach, which means lack of continuity and maybe even opportunity. A new forward may nt adapt or have the patience, especially if he isn't a game changing one.
Very good point!
That's why most people hope we'd sell at least two strikers, but my opinion is that we haven't done so and we wouldn't by the simplest of reasons: we can't broker a decent deal. What was our best... sth like 10 for Matri and 10 for Quag? Then we are still 15m short for a top forward and having the wannabe No10 midget and Mirko as bench options? This is not going to work for so many reasons...
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,929
Even still, would you rather lose a player like Matri if say, a player like Osvaldo/ was replacing him? I honestly would not. its relative based on who our targets are. If Marrotta is incapable of getting in anybody else, then I rather we keep this line up with the addition of Llorente. We need to make changes only if we can improve the attack. Let's not make changes for the sake of it, coz while our line up may not be the most prolific forwards in Europe. They work well as a unit and are able to adapt to the difficult situation of Conte's approach, which means lack of continuity and maybe even opportunity. A new forward may nt adapt or have the patience, especially if he isn't a game changing one.
Of course, I wouldn't want Osvaldos instead of Matri. If we are gonna sell our strikers, it'd better for a significant upgrade. Like you said, let's not sell for the sake of it.
 

enzo

Senior Member
May 14, 2012
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Why do you keep on trying to prove something to certain fags? You sound like a parrot saying the same thing over and over and over again. It's not worth it bro.

Don't give it any attention, let the turd wash away :)
After all, these are discussions forums here. But I get your point :)

No brah. These boys are intelligent. I follow their posts and they are objective enough to see reason. Just hoping I get through to them :)
Nothing against some idealism :p Just don't try to hard :)
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,882
I think the best way to analyze all their positions on the team, is at the end of the season. Pointless just hero worshipping or running these guys down match after match, like we always do. I agree this is one of the weaker attacking line ups in our history, but I doubt there's going to be a revolution to change things drastically, so we need to take stock at the end of the season and shuffle around players based on whose coming in and our financial resources to deal with that, given who we are getting rid of. It could be any one of our four main strikers, but if you're going to sell Quag and get 7m, which may the be reivnested in someone like Osvaldo for example coz its mot a sale thatll generate much, then you maybe better of keeping him given what he brings from the bench and the fact that he's ok playing that role. But if you're going to sell Gio and get 15m, then that goes a long way in finding a replacement, as a starter, and financially too. So its more like for like. Just an example, but you are free to disagree.
That's where you're wrong. Vucinic & Giovinco won't be going anywhere. That much should be clear for everyone who follows the team.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
Vucinič isn't going nowhere, but I wouldn't be so sure about Seba, they got rid of him once and this season he's probably doing worse than before Parma. Sure, Conte is a huge factor here, but when it comes to selling value, Giovinco probably has the highest between our forwards, it could be another Diego - Krasič deal.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,965
Osvaldo is levels above Matri.
He's a better overall player, but saying he's levels above Matri (which he really isnt), is false and makes Osvaldo seem like's he's Batistuta in his prime and Matri like he's no better than Elvis Abbruscato.

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That's where you're wrong. Vucinic & Giovinco won't be going anywhere. That much should be clear for everyone who follows the team.
Who do you think will be sold out of our current strikers?
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Osvaldo is levels above Matri.
That's a fallacy. He's just a more well documented player, and he may have another facet or two, but on his day Matri can be pretty lethal.

That's where you're wrong. Vucinic & Giovinco won't be going anywhere. That much should be clear for everyone who follows the team.
Not at all. Nobody knows what Conte and the think tank have in mind for the upcoming season. None of the forwards have been head and shoulders ahead of each other. Each has exhibited strengths as well as weaknesses. Just because Vucinic and Giovinco are his choice as starters does not indicate what can't change in the close season when he analyzes the attacking unit. Vucinic is almost 30 and is one of the older ones and his consistency or lack therof could have an effect on how he is perceived in the team. Selling him now, may be the last chance to cash in on him and use that money entirely on a significant upgrade. The same applies to Giovinco. His temperament has been questionable at times and he hasn't really clicked, maybe because of how he has been used, but he has been a disappointment. But given his age, he could be a great bargaining chip or salable player if Conte wants to replace him for a player likely to replace him in the 352, someone like Sanchez or Jojo. Again, he is likely to fetch the highest fee. Quag and Matri being bench players and having adapted to Conte's system may still be retained because their value may not be enough to bring a better player, and certainly not a game changing one. So there's nothing certain about whose going and whose staying. It'll all depend on who we are targeting.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Who do you think will be sold out of our current strikers?
All depends on who our targets are. I don't see Vucinic and Gioinvco sitting on the bench the way Quag and Matri do, if we were to get a Suarez to partner with Llorente as a starting pair. Even a Sanchez for that matter. In this case it's quite plausible one of those two could be sold or ask to leave. If we are looking at a relative or perceived upgrade in someone like Osvaldo, then Quag or Matri maybe traded or swapped, though, that would be a huge mistake because Osvaldo is not only as good or as bad, but he has a worse attitude. If we were going for Jojo as a target, then Gio or Quag could be swapped to bring the price down, and balance the deal out entirely. Too many variables. Those could still open up even more opportunities if we were to progress in the CL however unlikely it may be. So I personally don't think any of the forwards have a free ride in the summer.

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Thing is he hasn't been on his day for many days!
You can't blame the player bro. No player can thrive in these conditions and especially not an out and out cf, whose entire game and confidence is based on the goals he score. Even though Matri has had a decent run of form to show for the opportunity he has been given.
 

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