Fabio Cannavaro (32 Viewers)
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thanx for enlighten me
Ooooh, that says ALOT, in other words, you just want to generalize and belittle those who disagree with your point of view, what a suprise. I see the allure in it, its way easier then to actually argument for your point of view (I mean, someone writing their views logically like only juve did, we CANT have that, lets reply with some childish pic of a crying baby....).
I mean, there being valid reasons to be against this signing doesnt matter at all (and pretty much most who think so have specified those reasons already), they just do because they irrationally hate the board? Its neat and tidy conclusion, well done.
I mean, there being valid reasons to be against this signing doesnt matter at all (and pretty much most who think so have specified those reasons already), they just do because they irrationally hate the board? Its neat and tidy conclusion, well done.
I will take my chances with De Ceglie and Criscito back there. But chances are Ranieri will stick with Molinaro NO MATTER WHAT, so we are stuck with that nonsense for at least one more season. Might as well focus on the positions we have a chance of upgrading.
Indeed, guaranteed many people who voted for the Cannavaro return do not watch La Liga frequently. As Osman stated he has been absolutely useless during the past three years.
So what's at stake here is yes, we will get some experience through his return, but that experience is worth less than the actual performances on the pitch by said player. And it's fairly certain that his performances over the past years do not justify a return to a club such as Juventus, so this could turn out to be quite the mistake. Especially if we are expecting this player to start for the next two years.
Instead of fixing the problems, we only prolong the misery. Just like the United States should have let AIG fail, we should let Cannavaro fail and take measures to fix the long-term problems we face.
Well, I'd certainly be against his return, the little maggot.
Exactly, Osman. Just by looking at the numbers, I'd say that about 50% of the forum is against the board, but people seem to prefer the Cannavaro signing 2 to 1. The numbers don't add up to justify jack's argument.
Indeed, guaranteed many people who voted for the Cannavaro return do not watch La Liga frequently. As Osman stated he has been absolutely useless during the past three years.
So what's at stake here is yes, we will get some experience through his return, but that experience is worth less than the actual performances on the pitch by said player. And it's fairly certain that his performances over the past years do not justify a return to a club such as Juventus, so this could turn out to be quite the mistake. Especially if we are expecting this player to start for the next two years.
Instead of fixing the problems, we only prolong the misery. Just like the United States should have let AIG fail, we should let Cannavaro fail and take measures to fix the long-term problems we face.
Look at our full backs and tell me if you still think that people here would've been anti-Zambrotta if we had a chance to sign him 
Exactly, Osman. Just by looking at the numbers, I'd say that about 50% of the forum is against the board, but people seem to prefer the Cannavaro signing 2 to 1. The numbers don't add up to justify jack's argument.
DA obviously but your failing to see the point here,he's taking up a first team spot whereas a younger player can develop by gaining experience by playing not by warming the bench.Besides the youngsters are learning from former Juve defensive greats like Pessotto & Ferrara,so you have no base for argument there.Might as well get him to be the reserve team defense coach.
Yes he was amazing prior to his departure but with Ranieri in charge i can bloody guarantee he'll start every match & for all i know Secco might be lazy to look for a suitable replacement.Canna will probably ened up playing until 40yrs old in a Juve jersey.Great stuff
Its not about his undoubted quality he has,its merely about the boards lack of long term vision or stingy approach to strengthening the squad.
And for all those that want to tell me about where are we gonna get better,you wont but at the end of the day Canna was a rookie himself,he didnt become a star over night.It takes time for a player to develop & if these youngsters dont get enough playing time they lose motivation & focus.
Yes he was amazing prior to his departure but with Ranieri in charge i can bloody guarantee he'll start every match & for all i know Secco might be lazy to look for a suitable replacement.Canna will probably ened up playing until 40yrs old in a Juve jersey.Great stuff
Its not about his undoubted quality he has,its merely about the boards lack of long term vision or stingy approach to strengthening the squad.
And for all those that want to tell me about where are we gonna get better,you wont but at the end of the day Canna was a rookie himself,he didnt become a star over night.It takes time for a player to develop & if these youngsters dont get enough playing time they lose motivation & focus.
I don't understand how you can predict the future or that Canna will be playing in a Juve jersey until he is 40. The thing about him was he was at a smaller club so he was able to play more at a young age, well Juventus is no Parma thats for sure so for a youngster to get PT is much more difficult.
The board is heading in the right direction if they continue to fill the gaps that are needed. We just don't have enough money to buy every player in everyones wish list. Canna will be a short term fix while we strengthen other areas of our team. Nedved replacement and RB.
Well, you were right about one thing it does take a long time for a player to develope
But why would you want to force an undeveloped player into a situation they aren't ready for? Defense is the last area you want to make a mistake in, why push for a younger player that isn't ready? Its not like a striker that can learn from their mistakes by a misplaced shot. Defenders, if they make a mistake it can result in 3 pts down the drain and a lost schudetto. Can't you see that, if a young defender makes mistakes and leads to goals it can seriously damage his confidence then you gotta rebuild again off of that. Either way you look at it, Canna teaching our young defenders will be great. They will learn a lot being his understudy. Just like Gio is learning from DP which brings me to my next point. I do share you worry that he may play too many games but in the long run our youngsters are learning a lot. I want to see Ariaudo play as much as you but at the moment he just isn't ready for that big of a step. Maybe next year he will get some Coppa games and games against a smaller team in Serie A perhaps.
this is what I thought, but surely we would have had enough in reserve to get us through a year?
It would have been useful for saving money, time and would have made the team more competitive instantly and there wouldn't be the dilemma over the team gelling, I don't know why this idea was never mentioned.
It would have been useful for saving money, time and would have made the team more competitive instantly and there wouldn't be the dilemma over the team gelling, I don't know why this idea was never mentioned.
The problem at the moment is that one can only say that they do or do not want Cannavaro by looking at it very broadly, because we don't know enough about the terms of the contract or the Board's transfer strategy this summer.
As always, the devil is in the detail, so broad principles are all that one can reasonably speak about just now. Anything else is pure conjecture.
That is why I will not be voting until I know more details of the move.
As always, the devil is in the detail, so broad principles are all that one can reasonably speak about just now. Anything else is pure conjecture.
That is why I will not be voting until I know more details of the move.
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