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Hust

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Get over yourself, I and others explained to you how the clubs wont poach a player due to some legal loophole, and how its bad for the clubs who does it, but you still ignored that and harped on, so I called you naive, which you were coming off as.
I am definitely not on myself. You belittled me because I had a different opinion and then made that hypocritical statement. Deal with it.
 

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Luca

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1.) Did anyone think we are not investing in a young CB when perhaps the idea is to groom Ariaudo or Criscito for that position? Looks like a potential Azzurri partnership in the making to me. Why spend millions on Kjaer or Agger when we could possibly have someone younger and/or better in the making?

2.) I think its a little bit too early to predict that the board has no clue who they will be signing this summer.
You're saying this way too early he only plyed a few matches. Kjaer though looks the biz, he's the same age as Ariaudo and has played a very good season
 
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I'm against this transfer no matter what the terms of the deal are. Even if Lippi and Pessotto and Ferrara was in charge of the transfer I'd still be against it on the grounds of Cannavaro sucking balls for the last three years, being too old to offer more than two years of service back there, and him already leaving us for whatever the hell reason he had after claiming he'd stick with the team through Serie B. In each and every argumentative point, the answer is NO!

We are supposedly to be building for the future, not reverting back to the same old players. These are steps in the wrong direction no matter how we look at it.
I think in a way this transfer would be aimed at our future because it is clear Mellberg and Leggro are not good enough so Canna would just hold us over until Ariaudo or Criscito are good enough to be starting CB.

Canna is not as good as he once was but he is still far better than Mellberg and Leggro. If say we bought a 30 year old CB or 28 year old. It would be understood he will be part of the team for a while and that he would be blocking Ariaudo from the first team. But Canna would really just be a stop gap while we wait for them to develop further. Also having Canna in our defense next season would make us much more closer to title contenders. And given the amount of good young players we have it is not like we are ignoring that aspect. There is nothing wrong with focusing on making the team better for just one season with Canna then looking elsewhere.

If we only have enough money for "the star signing" this summer then it is good to bring in a good defender without spending and then spending or promoting from within the next summer.
 

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You're saying this way too early he only plyed a few matches. Kjaer though looks the biz, he's the same age as Ariaudo and has played a very good season
I wasn't saying it as factual, I was just curious as to wonder if anyone has mentioned that yet. Perhaps that is the plan? I really couldn't say. Just an idea.
 

Luca

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I wasn't saying it as factual, I was just curious as to wonder if anyone has mentioned that yet. Perhaps that is the plan? I really couldn't say. Just an idea.
i really don't beleive he's proved himself enough yet to figure as a main feature in our plans. I like him and want him to succeed here but I really think that this is not the case just yet.
 

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I think in a way this transfer would be aimed at our future because it is clear Mellberg and Leggro are not good enough so Canna would just hold us over until Ariaudo or Criscito are good enough to be starting CB.

Canna is not as good as he once was but he is still far better than Mellberg and Leggro. If say we bought a 30 year old CB or 28 year old. It would be understood he will be part of the team for a while and that he would be blocking Ariaudo from the first team. But Canna would really just be a stop gap while we wait for them to develop further. Also having Canna in our defense next season would make us much more closer to title contenders. And given the amount of good young players we have it is not like we are ignoring that aspect. There is nothing wrong with focusing on making the team better for just one season with Canna then looking elsewhere.

If we only have enough money for "the star signing" this summer then it is good to bring in a good defender without spending and then spending or promoting from within the next summer.
But judging by the performances of Cannavaro and Legrottaglie during the past two years, I would take the latter without question. Cannavaro looked utterly horrible compared to decent performances taken as whole by Legro.

And Ariaudo is 19 years old. You claim Cannavaro is a stop gap measure for him, but if that's the case then Cannavaro will be playing until he's 40 years old.
 

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i really don't beleive he's proved himself enough yet to figure as a main feature in our plans. I like him and want him to succeed here but I really think that this is not the case just yet.
Maybe in a few years then:pumpkin:
 
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Well even if Canna can add a lot more quality and experience to the squad than the present defence, I don think he shud be crowned as a full tme starter. We shud be goin for another gud CB who will be able to stay at the club for 5-6 years or more at top level in addition to a RB. Canna will obviously add quality to our defence
 

Luca

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It was difficult, which is why I have always refrained from criticizing the Board for what they did that summer.
I don't think anybody in the right mind set would, not even the best management could have pursuaded the players to play in B, that's why I thought the loan idea would've been a great alternative policy, but lets live and let die now.
 
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    Ok the ones that are against this move because he's old or whatever ; do you think we'd be stronger?

    Buffon

    X-Chiellini-Cannavaro-Criscito

    Sissoko- X -Marchisio

    X-Giovinco

    Amauri​

    ----

    defense x- Zuniga,Motta
    midfield x-Hamsik,Asamoah,Lucho
    attacking midfielder x-Diego,Cassano,Silva

    saying we should not sign him because he's old is just bullshit and so is saying that we're not thinking about future because it's young team overall and they could play for 5 more years and 1 year deal would not make a big of a difference because he IS better than Mellberg and Legro right now and because he CAN teach them how to defend and so.If we buy Kjaer (or not even him ; this team would be great so we could spend 30mln euros on a defender next year) so he could learn from Chiellini and we'd have well formed defense available to play for the next 8 years.

    he left but it was his decision and I don't like it but I do think we could use him right now because our defense needs one veteran to lead them.If he betrayed Juve then we should not even mention Zambrotta on this forum who was supposed to come as well but he joined Milan.
     

    Luca

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    Motta, but thats a dream
    Lucho, box to box more exp than Hamsik + asamoah
    Diego, would nicely contrast with giovinco, I think Cassano is too similar.

    First players that popped into my head, hence the little explanation
     
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    But judging by the performances of Cannavaro and Legrottaglie during the past two years, I would take the latter without question. Cannavaro looked utterly horrible compared to decent performances taken as whole by Legro.

    And Ariaudo is 19 years old. You claim Cannavaro is a stop gap measure for him, but if that's the case then Cannavaro will be playing until he's 40 years old.
    If he does play till he is 40 he wont be playing here. I think we need to have some confidence that whoever is coach will use him properly then let him go when the time comes. That is key. But as long as we can get some decent performances out of him I think it is win win.
     

    Luca

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    It is. He only just got there, unless roma go into a financial meltdown from missing the C.L and re forced to sell him I believe that a move from roma for him is just make-believe

    I know he's a good player and that's why I was going absolutely ape-shit when roma got him, we had our chance as far as i'm concerned and we missed it.
     
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    It's not a dream...it's not like he's Maicon.
    but he is owned by Roma and Udinese with Roma buying the other half this summer. We have no chance of getting him nor have we been linked with him that much since he went to ROma so I dont understand why ppl keep putting him in their teams for next season.

    Zuniga is a much more realistic option
     
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    It is. He only just got there, unless roma go into a financial meltdown from missing the C.L and re forced to sell him I beleive that a move from roma for him is just make-beleive
    but he is owned by Roma and Udinese with Roma buying the other half this summer. We have no chance of getting him nor have we been linked with him that much since he went to ROma so I dont understand why ppl keep putting him in their teams for next season.

    Zuniga is a much more realistic option
    It's just a loan deal with an option to buy his half of the contract for 3.5 or whole for 7...knowing Roma they could miss him and especially now when it's likely that they won't even qualify for CL.

    Anyway, Zuniga is not that bad.
     

    Hust

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    Ok the ones that are against this move because he's old or whatever ; do you think we'd be stronger?

    Buffon

    X-Chiellini-Cannavaro-Criscito

    Sissoko- X -Marchisio

    X-Giovinco

    Amauri​

    ----

    defense x- Zuniga,Motta
    midfield x-Hamsik,Asamoah,Lucho
    attacking midfielder x-Diego,Cassano,Silva

    saying we should not sign him because he's old is just bullshit and so is saying that we're not thinking about future because it's young team overall and they could play for 5 more years and 1 year deal would not make a big of a difference because he IS better than Mellberg and Legro right now and because he CAN teach them how to defend and so.If we buy Kjaer (or not even him ; this team would be great so we could spend 30mln euros on a defender next year) so he could learn from Chiellini and we'd have well formed defense available to play for the next 8 years.

    he left but it was his decision and I don't like it but I do think we could use him right now because our defense needs one veteran to lead them.If he betrayed Juve then we should not even mention Zambrotta on this forum who was supposed to come as well but he joined Milan.
    :tup: thank you, well said!
     

    Luca

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    It's just a loan deal with an option to buy his half of the contract for 3.5 or whole for 7...knowing Roma they could miss him and especially now when it's likely that they won't even qualify for CL.

    Anyway, Zuniga is not that bad.
    Agreed bout Zuniga.
    But I'm pretty sure Roma will exersise their rights in Motta's deal, he's been a revalation for them and I'm sure they'll have no problen digging deep.
     

    Max

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    I was just thinking about this, it's hilarious because I should be studying. What if Cannavaro were to come to Juventus, and during a game Del Piero is subbed off only for our favourite Fabio to take the armband? You think that would cause a stir in these forums?
     
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