Btw, is, according to you, Germany or Italy the best european football nation in history? I'm talking national senior teams only, not club football.
The italians won 4 world cups and 1 euro. They lost 2 world cup finals and 1 Euro.
The Germans won 3 world cups and 3 EURO's . They lost 4 world cup finals and 3 EURO's.
So Italy played 6 world cup finals (won 4) while Germany played 7 world cup finals (won 3)
Italy played 2 EURO finals (won 1) while Germany played 6 EURO finals (won 3)
Also, the Germans made at least the semifinal of the world cup 11 times, while the Italians made at least the semi 8 times.
The Germans made at least the semifinal of the EURO 7 times, while the Italians 4 times.
Apart from one more world cup won for Italy (which counts a loooot), the Germans are better in everything else.
So who is better historically?