Emre Can - CM/DM - Liverpool (31 Viewers)

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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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@zizinho you don't rate Can?

I'm too much of an outsider these days to be certain when you are being sarcastic or not :p
i like him, but i think we need better for a starting spot, like being all over Sergej or watch the situation with Kovacic at Madrid. we wouldnt even be interested if he wasnt a freebie imo

also, if id have to pick a German freebie mid, it would be Max Meyer over him
 

Fred

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i like him, but i think we need better for a starting spot, like being all over Sergej or watch the situation with Kovacic at Madrid. we wouldnt even be interested if he wasnt a freebie imo

also, if id have to pick a German freebie mid, it would be Max Meyer over him
Ya that pretty much says you don't rate him :p

I agree with you by the way. He has a knack for doing something spectacular every now and then, but overall he's not more than a decent player IMO. I don't think Liverpool are losing that much with him leaving, and in all cases I'm not even sure if he would have been a regular starter next season with N.Keita coming in.
 

zizinho

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Ya that pretty much says you don't rate him :p

I agree with you by the way. He has a knack for doing something spectacular every now and then, but overall he's not more than a decent player IMO. I don't think Liverpool are losing that much with him leaving, and in all cases I'm not even sure if he would have been a regular starter next season with N.Keita coming in.
hed be a good backup, but 5M wages (only Higuain, Dybala and Costa have more) is quite worrying. indicates hes here to play a big role.

and i forgot to add above, i like him as a player, but not in a Juventus shirt :p
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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i like him, but i think we need better for a starting spot, like being all over Sergej or watch the situation with Kovacic at Madrid. we wouldnt even be interested if he wasnt a freebie imo

also, if id have to pick a German freebie mid, it would be Max Meyer over him
Meyer is a regista, don't need him.
 

pavluska

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he can play CM and AM as well, but most importantly, hes the better footballer than Can. reason enough for me. besides, id still sign a starting caliber player
He can, but not the type of player we need as backup or starter IMO, and seems to be best as regista now.

Can is better for us. Just hope we'll sign another CM who's better.
 

zizinho

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He can, but not the type of player we need as backup or starter IMO, and seems to be best as regista now.

Can is better for us. Just hope we'll sign another CM who's better.
i dont see Pjanic stay much longer, maybe 2 seasons, and i also think Bentancur should play with a regista, not be one. this looks like a opportunity we shouldnt pass on imo.

about Can, whatever way i look at this, i dont see us sign him + another starter

Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Pellegrini-Bentancur-Sturaro (or some other "jabroni") + Marchisio for depth. in this case, id rather this starter to be someone else and not Can
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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about Can, whatever way i look at this, i dont see us sign him + another starter

Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Pellegrini-Bentancur-Sturaro (or some other "jabroni") + Marchisio for depth. in this case, id rather this starter to be someone else and not Can
I agree, good chance Can will be starter, but even as starter he's a better option for us than Meyer. I see mid being too light with Meyer and Pjanic. Already is with Khedira.
 

zizinho

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I agree, good chance Can will be starter, but even as starter he's a better option for us than Meyer. I see mid being too light with Meyer and Pjanic. Already is with Khedira.
well, i want Meyer + Pellegrini + starter actually, which we wont be able to pull off with Can imo (due to high wages). then in 2-3 years wed have a midfield of:

Pellegrini Meyer/Mandragora Bentancur, if everything goes well with their development. oldest here is Meyer with 22-23 years age. midfield successfully rebuilt
 

TheLaz

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Oct 6, 2011
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If we play with the idea of a three man mid in a 433 there are two outlets for the three roles:

Version 1: #6(CDM), #8(B2B), #10(PLAYM.)
Version 2: #6(REGISTA), #8(B2B), #8(B2B)

The physical one is version 2 as you have two #8(B2B) type of players. We used to play this version with MVP: Marchisio, Vidal, Pirlo.

In version 1 you have space for less physical players as you have a natural CDM, who's very limited. This allows for more technical players in the #8 and #10 roles, as they won't have as much defensive contribution. This is how Real Madrid plays with two technical players in Kroos and Modric, backed by Casemiro.

Emre Can has such a good drive on the ball, that while he might suit the #6(CDM) role, we would probably see a better player if moved to a #8(B2B) role. As a #6(CDM) he could become very limited. A shame really bc he really excels his game when close to goal. I think Pjanic would be perfect in the #10(PLAYM.) role, but he could as well work as a #6(REGISTA).

If we want a physical midfield I think we should go with version 2: #6(REGISTA), #8(B2B), #8(B2B)

8. Can - 8. XX
6. Pjanic​
 
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