Emergency Move for Possible Lengthy Chiellini Injury? (6 Viewers)

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Kolodin was the guy with a great shot.
No-one in Russian back 4 impressed defensively and i don't think the Russians have a defender who'll do great in Juve.
maybe that's him. They didn't play a style to show off the defense though but I was just looking for other options.

So, do we push for Felipe of Udinese? CL experience, can play LB better than Molinaro maybe? Didn't see enough of him at LB to judge though. Good header. Not so good positioning. Gets flat footed sometimes.

ah, let's wait and see for Chiello's results.
 
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    :lol2:

    I love this forum.
    One day i and another 4 people fight and argue with Andy and another 4 people about something related to Juve and the next day me, Andy, two guys from "my group" and two guys from "Andy's group" agree about something and we fight and argue with the other four guys from group 1 and group 2. :p

    I'm 100% with Andy about Stendardo.
    Glad you agree with me here because I don't know what some people here are talking about. :p
     

    v1rtu4l

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    If we aim to buy a young promising defender and Zapata is out of reach, then Kompany is a very good solution, he's solid and does miracles at times.
    Kompany is very injury prone ... i remember him missing many matches from hsv because of his injuries in the last 2 seasons ... andrade part two coming our way ;)

    if santacroce is really as good as many say (didn't see him often last season), then perhaps paying 15 m for him would be a good deal and napoli would surely sell him for that. you must remember he is italien ! the bad point is that he only got 13 serie a games to his name, so he would be a gamble
     
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    We have spent not so much money during this mercato, so I assume we have capabilities to throw about 20m for a top quality defender and Zapata would be my choice. If not, then Felipe should be available for a more suiting our board sum.
    If we aim to buy a young promising defender and Zapata is out of reach, then Kompany is a very good solution, he's solid and does miracles at times. If we aim to buy or loan an overrated youngster from EPL then Senderos, although being mediocre, at least played sometimes last season unlike Ivanović. What I mean is that Ivanović isn't a solution at all in our situation, even Stendardo/Campagnaro/Dainelii would do better, because they know Serie A well and can play at predictable decent level at once.
    You can hardly say about 95% of your post. Stating that someone such as Stendardo would do better than Ivanovic is just a crap shot and you've probably never seen the young Serb play anyway.
     

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    Glad you agree with me here because I don't know what some people here are talking about. :p
    Whoever saw the Cribari-Siviglia partnership knows that the guys who are their subs must be a real disaster if they can't make it to Lazio's first team.
    And Stendardo isn't a starter for Lazio anymore.
    Man, if i'm a prof. football player and if my place in the starting XI is taken by Cribari or Siviglia i'll kill myself ASAP.

    Stendardo is good in the air but he's a disaster in everything else. He's not even average.
     
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    Whoever saw the Cribari-Siviglia partnership knows that the guys who are their subs must be a real disaster if they can't make it to Lazio's first team.
    And Stendardo isn't a starter for Lazio anymore.
    Man, if i'm a prof. football player and if my place in the starting XI is taken by Cribari or Siviglia i'll kill myself ASAP.

    Stendardo is good in the air but he's a disaster in everything else. He's not even average.
    To think that Cribari and Siviglia are better than Stendardo is very scary indeed. I know the latter had fallen out with Delio Rossi over something or rather, not sure what though. Doesn't matter - anybody who thinks Stendardo is a solution here must not have seen him play for Lazio and are probably tricked into thinking he's good after just seeing a couple appearances by the player for us. He's not worth the time, nor is he any better than Knezevic.
     

    v1rtu4l

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    And Stendardo isn't a starter for Lazio anymore.
    Man, if i'm a prof. football player and if my place in the starting XI is taken by Cribari or Siviglia i'll kill myself ASAP.
    so you're saying that stendardo does not get playing time because he is worse then the other center backs in rome and not because he had some arguments with delio rossi ?

    man, than riquelme must be a pretty bad player too ... didn't play for much of the last season (or was it the season before that ?) ... i think you're getting my point ..

    i do not want to compare riquelmes skill with stendardos, but in fact i base my opinion on what i actually saw from stendardo when he played for us last season and he did well (compared to the other centre backs we had)
     
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    Stendardo played in five matches for us last season, two coming off the bench. Do you understand how ridiculous it is to base your opinion off of those performances while not even remembering his Lazio form? I doubt you ever saw any matches with his time at Lazio.

    And which centerbacks of ours did he "own" last season? Chiellini? Legrottaglie? Andrade? The answer is no, no, and no.
     

    RavaneVialli

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    You can hardly say about 95% of your post. Stating that someone such as Stendardo would do better than Ivanovic is just a crap shot and you've probably never seen the young Serb play anyway.
    Indeed I've seen him only three or four times while playing for Lokomotiv and he was quite good, but after few games I can't rate him highly neither say he's weak.
    But I really wanted to see him more frequently at Chelsea and I couldn't because he didn't play at all, so it's a gamble. And a gamble is something we want to avoid now, don't we? If we don't then we can also stay put with Mellberg and Legrottaglie as well. Stendardo showed last season we can rely on him in an emergency situation, when we lost... Chiellini exactly. But nobody can say we could rely on Ivanović in the following weeks, as I said: as a promising youngster I'm all for him, as an emergency for a half of season season (count few weeks or months to settle and after that season he goes back to Chelsea) - not at all.

    I don't rate Dainelli or other mediocre defenders, I'm just curious how people see in a player who has barely played a friendly since January and in addition has no Serie A experience an emergency solution to replace Chiellini, that's all.
     

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    so you're saying that stendardo does not get playing time because he is worse then the other center backs in rome and not because he had some arguments with delio rossi ?

    man, than riquelme must be a pretty bad player too ... didn't play for much of the last season (or was it the season before that ?) ... i think you're getting my point ..

    i do not want to compare riquelmes skill with stendardos, but in fact a base my opinion on what i actually saw from stendardo when he played for us last season and he did well (compared to the other centre backs we had)
    IIRC Stendardo had a falling out with Dellio Rossi because the coach blamed him for the disastreous performances of Lazio's backline. You can call it bad management to blame a certain player for team's poor results but it still shows how good Stendardo was.

    Guys, it's Stendardo. We had him for half a year, we know his qualities. If we thought he's good enough to play for Juve then why didn't we buy him but we went for Knezevic instead ?
    Money issue ? Maybe, but i doubt that Lazio would've rejected a 5m eur offer for him.
    If we didn't want to pay even that much for him then there is no need to talk about this anymore because it shows perfectly how good defender he is.
     

    Alen

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    I think lazio wanted more than 5 million.
    That was only part of the loan deal. They probaly hoped he'll play well and we'll be ready to buy him out for 12m eur.
    If we negotiate a transfer for Stendardo then i'm sure it will be much much less than 12m eur.
    Something between 5-6m.
     
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    I don't rate Dainelli or other mediocre defenders, I'm just curious how people see in a player who has barely played a friendly since January and in addition has no Serie A experience an emergency solution to replace Chiellini, that's all.
    Mellberg has no Serie A experience either.
     

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    Hope we do bring someone very good
    a Cannavaro return would be great
    I want us to sign a great defender to partner Chiellini when Chiellini returns
     
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