We brought him as an addition to the so-called complete side, after Chiellini-Legrottaglie partnership's good season, with Andrade expected to be fit, not in an emergency situation like now.
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that is exactly what i said ... i base my opinion on what i saw when he played for us, not for lazio.
Stendardo played well for us against good teams
you know that legrottaglie without chiellini is still not reliable, so yes i rate him a bit higher than legrottaglie, because i think he is more concentrated (that is just what i think from seeing him play a few times)
Did he own Andrade ? tbh Andrada looked like a lumberjack in the preseason giving too many freekicks around the box to our opponent ... add to that, that andrade did nothing going forward (he is not really a danger in the air).
that might not be of any interesset for you, but with stendardo we played 5 games, won 4 and drew one ... so he cannot be that much of a liability...
@alen:
i did not know the exact topic of the argument between stendardo and rossi, but if you say that secco and co always mess up or buy crap players you can not argue that it is fact that stendardo is crap, because secco and co think so.
i do not think that stendardo is the best choice, but he is the most easy to get and would probably fit in perfect, because he already played for us ...
Stendardo played well for us against good teams
you know that legrottaglie without chiellini is still not reliable, so yes i rate him a bit higher than legrottaglie, because i think he is more concentrated (that is just what i think from seeing him play a few times)
Did he own Andrade ? tbh Andrada looked like a lumberjack in the preseason giving too many freekicks around the box to our opponent ... add to that, that andrade did nothing going forward (he is not really a danger in the air).
that might not be of any interesset for you, but with stendardo we played 5 games, won 4 and drew one ... so he cannot be that much of a liability...
@alen:
i did not know the exact topic of the argument between stendardo and rossi, but if you say that secco and co always mess up or buy crap players you can not argue that it is fact that stendardo is crap, because secco and co think so.
i do not think that stendardo is the best choice, but he is the most easy to get and would probably fit in perfect, because he already played for us ...
Everybody in our defense except for Chiellini is average and won't start in any top team, without Chiellini it will be a disaster believe me. So what are our options if Chiellini's injury is serious, buy an equally good defender, which is impossible at this point of the mercato, or buy an average defender, but we already have a lot of those. Which means that we are fucked up, but if we take Ivanovic on loan and risk him in the first few matches, maybe he will be a leader in defense and not just another medicore defender(aka a Knezevic).
Zapata is impossible now because he's a key player at Udinese, so if we buy him( for a ridiculous sum) they will have to look for replacement and time is running out, so it's not possible even if we give them 30m for him.
Kompany, I'm sure he will be overpriced.
Sanderos, Felipe, Stendardo, Campangaro and Dainelli are average defenders just like Mellberg and Legro.
Zapata is impossible now because he's a key player at Udinese, so if we buy him( for a ridiculous sum) they will have to look for replacement and time is running out, so it's not possible even if we give them 30m for him.
Kompany, I'm sure he will be overpriced.
Sanderos, Felipe, Stendardo, Campangaro and Dainelli are average defenders just like Mellberg and Legro.
On second thought, ATM Stendardo will cost more than 5m.
Lazio knows we're desperate for a CB and they'll try to get as much more possible.
Since we need a CB we'll probably pay them what they want.
So lets say we pay them some 8-9m euro for Stendardo.
Chiellini is back and then ? What the fuck are we supposed to do with Stendardo ?
We pay big money for someone who'll spend the rest of the season on the bench with Knezevic because there will be 3 defenders in front of him in the pecking order.
So practically, we'll pay 8-9m for a a player who'll be our 3rd choice CB for 1/2/3 months and then he'll be our 4th choice CB for the rest of the season (and next season)
If we buy a CB it better be a starter. If not then we should simply loan someone or go on like this with Legro, Knezevic and Mellberg.
Lazio knows we're desperate for a CB and they'll try to get as much more possible.
Since we need a CB we'll probably pay them what they want.
So lets say we pay them some 8-9m euro for Stendardo.
Chiellini is back and then ? What the fuck are we supposed to do with Stendardo ?
We pay big money for someone who'll spend the rest of the season on the bench with Knezevic because there will be 3 defenders in front of him in the pecking order.
So practically, we'll pay 8-9m for a a player who'll be our 3rd choice CB for 1/2/3 months and then he'll be our 4th choice CB for the rest of the season (and next season)
If we buy a CB it better be a starter. If not then we should simply loan someone or go on like this with Legro, Knezevic and Mellberg.
nobody said that stendardo was first choice !
saying we need a starter is easy, naming one that was reasonable cheap or at least worth his price is another story ... i don't know any proven player that will come cheaper than let's say 15 m euro (even if i don't think our board will spend that much).
it all comes down to how you rate mellberg, knezevic and legrotaglie
saying we need a starter is easy, naming one that was reasonable cheap or at least worth his price is another story ... i don't know any proven player that will come cheaper than let's say 15 m euro (even if i don't think our board will spend that much).
it all comes down to how you rate mellberg, knezevic and legrotaglie
I would be quite happy with Zapata - he would be an excellent acquisition...
I'm at a total loss as to how Senderos could EVER enter into this conversation...
Senderos is as slow as they come, and has positional sense akin to Molinaro's. My ex-roommates were gooners, so I've seen him play a decent # of times. On the rare occasion that he gets into a match, he immediately becomes the bane of Arsenal's existence - Senderos is the definition of a defensive liability. What a great pair he'd make with our other two speedsters, Nicola and Olof.
I think it's a pretty big stretch to assume that management was expecting Andrade to be fit this year, given his history of injuries. Even if they expected him to technically be able to play, they certainly wouldn't have believed that he could be much of a factor. Plus, it's important to remember that we secured Mellberg's signing last January, on a pre-contract... while Andrade was injured.
I enjoy Nicola, but it's clearly Chiellini's mobility that makes Legro look so respectable - Giorgio is consistently covering his ass.
I'm at a total loss as to how Senderos could EVER enter into this conversation...
Senderos is as slow as they come, and has positional sense akin to Molinaro's. My ex-roommates were gooners, so I've seen him play a decent # of times. On the rare occasion that he gets into a match, he immediately becomes the bane of Arsenal's existence - Senderos is the definition of a defensive liability. What a great pair he'd make with our other two speedsters, Nicola and Olof.
I think it's a pretty big stretch to assume that management was expecting Andrade to be fit this year, given his history of injuries. Even if they expected him to technically be able to play, they certainly wouldn't have believed that he could be much of a factor. Plus, it's important to remember that we secured Mellberg's signing last January, on a pre-contract... while Andrade was injured.
I enjoy Nicola, but it's clearly Chiellini's mobility that makes Legro look so respectable - Giorgio is consistently covering his ass.
Don't count on that. If Ranieri wanted a new full back then he'd ask for one already. We have 2+2 flank defenders and unless one of them gets a serious injury then don't expect a new LB/RB.
We have to wait till tomorrow and see for how long will Chiellini be out. If it's a month or two then i doubt we'll buy anyone. If it's 5 or 6+ months then we'll certainly get someone depending on Ranieri's opinion of Mellberg, Legro and Knezevic.
If Ranieri thinks Mellberg-Legro are good enough to be our starting Cbs then we'll buy someone mediocre and cheap just so we'll have 4 Cbs. If not, then hopefully we'll get a better player (if we can find one in late August at all).
If it's 3 or 4 months then i'm not sure what are we going to do.
We have to wait till tomorrow and see for how long will Chiellini be out. If it's a month or two then i doubt we'll buy anyone. If it's 5 or 6+ months then we'll certainly get someone depending on Ranieri's opinion of Mellberg, Legro and Knezevic.
If Ranieri thinks Mellberg-Legro are good enough to be our starting Cbs then we'll buy someone mediocre and cheap just so we'll have 4 Cbs. If not, then hopefully we'll get a better player (if we can find one in late August at all).
If it's 3 or 4 months then i'm not sure what are we going to do.
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