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Zacheryah

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ever heard of strootman, Kuyt is important too for dressing room
Sneijder is a beast as captain
de jong can't play the ball but almost wins all his challenge.
then we have affelay

those wonderkids didn't qualify for euro's or wc for years
Dembélé can't score for Shit, Fellaini can't play the ball, witsel thinks hé is superstar. chadli won't make the differences. benteke would be 5th choice for holland
Kompany is the best defender. and Belgium barely shows something vidal and marchisio has. witsel and duffour could only dream about reaching their levels.

i like Belgium and hope you guys qualify for the wc but calling you guys better then holland is just big mouthed arrogance

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holland 3-2 vs uruguay in 2010 :shifty:
cassilas was so lucky vs holland
just like puyol


my belgium selection would be

---------Courtois (altho stijnen in form is better)

Gillet---Kompany--vermaelen--vertongen

-----------defour--fellaini
Mertens---De Bruyne----Hazard

-------------Benteke

fellaini, is better in playing the ball then de jong, better in the air, same in duel power
defour > strootman, personal opinion, you should watch how he was at standard, captain at 18

sneijder is my favorite dutchie by a very long margain. de bruyne has potential to be simular(imo), but thats gonna take quite a while.

dembele can only dribble, i dont rate him

witsel is solid recently, but they have allways overrated him, cant understand they payd 40 mil for him. defour is plain better.

i refer to our mid3, as in they got less quality but more duelpower then any mid3 in the world. same goes for belgium if you field defour-fellaini
its like saying, arsenal from a few years ago, and cruyffs ajax play total football. true, but cruyffs ajax was endlessly better at it. also fuck arsenal, bunch of mediocre cunts.

Benteke, is a usefull targetman, that has a very important role in our team. he also scores the occasional goal.


if belgium would have rvp instead of benteke in my lineup, we would go pretty damn far in any tournament
 

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Trezegol17

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Like allways, you only value the technicaql ability of players.

Defour, is an absolute boss in the dressingroom, and makes players around him play better. He was captain of the standard side were fellaini and witsel came from, that eliminated everton and nearly liverpool when both were good teams.

Defour, fellaini, witsel, is what we are supposed to field

And just like juve, they have less ability then sneijder, vandervaart(past it) and de jong, but better in duels, and will win the midfield battle, just like marchisio, vidal, pogba would against any 3man mid

Benteke isnt european pedigree like huntelaar and van persie, but he is the targetman belgium needs, and scores his goals. as a targetman he does pretty well

hazard has been $#@! for the NT, but in time that will be solved, and how he plays at chelsea, makes him the best player in the benelux along with van persie

Thing is, we got a bad coach

Yeah, he's a motivator and all, and he can do tactical switches during the game, but he is defensively far to risky


against serbia, a known hardpressing team, we missed fellaini and defour.

his solution, was to field witsel, dembele(former striker) and de bruyne(technically an ss), behind hazard, chadly and benteke

we had nothing of duelpower in the midfield and got bossed of the field for 34 mins, untill benteke scored our second chance on a beckhamquality cross from de bruyne

thing is, we should have been 4 goals down by that, as serbia ran straight at the penaltybox and got plenty of huge chances.


its alot like we had at home against shaktar, and even worse. but belgium scored first, and juve didnt.


if we play like this against a team with european pedigree strikers, we will lose severely, i hope he learned that
Oppassen wat je zegt jochie. Met je grote bek, je moet zo stoer praten tegen de jochies uit je klas die je pesten in plaats van achter je pc schermpje
 

Raz

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I was looking at the Belgium squad the other day, very nice selection indeed, and ~20 players 25 or under with a lot of talent.
I remmeber similar scenario with Mpenza or whatver his name was, that supposed to be next best forward, and they had some good young team back then too if i remember correctly.
 
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    stekelenburg
    van der wiel/ van rijn- heitinga- bmi/de vrij- willems/pieters
    strootman-de jong
    narsingh/lens-sneijder-robben
    van persie/hunt

    simpel nederland is beter
    defour is een goede speler, maar strootman is ook echt een goede speler en nog veel groeimarge
     
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    Time will tell Janna, Belgium has a great team with alot of potential.

    We will see where we stand when we play Germany next month.
    indeed belgium has great potential and I hope to face them at the wc
    friendlies don't say a lot.
    Germany is further imo then this Dutch side
     

    Zacheryah

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    Oppassen wat je zegt jochie. Met je grote bek, je moet zo stoer praten tegen de jochies uit je klas die je pesten in plaats van achter je pc schermpje
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    stekelenburg
    van der wiel/ van rijn- heitinga- bmi/de vrij- willems/pieters
    strootman-de jong
    narsingh/lens-sneijder-robben
    van persie/hunt

    simpel nederland is beter
    defour is een goede speler, maar strootman is ook echt een goede speler en nog veel groeimarge
    i think we have a diffrent opinion then

    and i dont take value of the friendly, yeah its a "derby", but its still a friendly, and a very wierd game
     
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    i think we have a diffrent opinion then

    and i dont take value of the friendly, yeah its a "derby", but its still a friendly, and a very wierd game
    ok we will see in wc then :D
     

    Zacheryah

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    Lukaku doesn't start for Belgium?
    Benteke plays way better and scores in every game

    he's also injured

    I was thinking the same
    stijn stijnen :rofl:
    in 2005, club brugge and juventus met in the CL group stage

    juve pushed brugge back the entire game, but was held at 0-0 because of over 10 miracle saves by stijnen.
    after the game, moggi asked brugge DS what his price was

    over the years, he was incredible for brugge, untill an indicent that saw the retarded board fire him.

    since then, he was not even half of what he used to be.


    My father supports brugge, so i have watches just about every game of him. he was better then any keeper in the current serie a apart from buffon.


    before you comment that, watch his games, or dont comment at all
     
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    Benteke plays way better and scores in every game

    he's also injured



    in 2005, club brugge and juventus met in the CL group stage

    juve pushed brugge back the entire game, but was held at 0-0 because of over 10 miracle saves by stijnen.
    after the game, moggi asked brugge DS what his price was

    over the years, he was incredible for brugge, untill an indicent that saw the retarded board fire him.

    since then, he was not even half of what he used to be.


    My father supports brugge, so i have watches just about every game of him. he was better then any keeper in the current serie a apart from buffon.


    before you comment that, watch his games, or dont comment at all
    that is why i laughed, Stijnen couldn't handle the pressure
    moggi also bought isakson to juve

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    yeah shame belgium have yet to produce proper full backs rather than using 4 cb's as their defence :D
    Gillet can't believe they pick crappy alderweireld above him
     

    Zacheryah

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    janna, Gillet was suspended..

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    one thing, DAT courtois save on the free kick tonight

    fucking amazing


    btw if you got highlights for the dutch game post them, youtube is all crap :-/
     

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    in 2005, club brugge and juventus met in the CL group stage

    juve pushed brugge back the entire game, but was held at 0-0 because of over 10 miracle saves by stijnen.
    after the game, moggi asked brugge DS what his price was

    over the years, he was incredible for brugge, untill an indicent that saw the retarded board fire him.

    since then, he was not even half of what he used to be.


    My father supports brugge, so i have watches just about every game of him. he was better then any keeper in the current serie a apart from buffon.


    before you comment that, watch his games, or dont comment at all
    Saying Stijnen is (or was) better than the current Courtois is about the same as saying Sorrentino is a better keeper than Buffon. You're free to have such an opinion, it just doesn't do your credibility much good.

    And the reason why he had to leave Brugge was entirely his own fault. Good old Frigo, dividing his time between making great saves, posting on internet forums & trying to injure people.


    janna, Gillet was suspended..
    No, he was not.
     
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    Saying Stijnen is (or was) better than the current Courtois is about the same as saying Sorrentino is a better keeper than Buffon. You're free to have such an opinion, it just doesn't do your credibility much good.

    And the reason why he had to leave Brugge was entirely his own fault. Good old Frigo, dividing his time between making great saves, posting on internet forums & trying to injure people.




    No, he was not.
    Gillet seems to me a better option then alderweireld who is a center back and at that place he finds to much competion to start. Vermealen, kompany, verthongen, lombearts etc are better as center back then alderweireld.

    that goalkeeper of torino now Gillet (correct me if I wrong) he is even better then Stijn Stijnen
     

    Zacheryah

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    Saying Stijnen is (or was) better than the current Courtois is about the same as saying Sorrentino is a better keeper than Buffon. You're free to have such an opinion, it just doesn't do your credibility much good.

    And the reason why he had to leave Brugge was entirely his own fault. Good old Frigo, dividing his time between making great saves, posting on internet forums & trying to injure people.




    No, he was not.
    Joos said during the game that he was going to be "back" for the next one ?


    and yes stijnen was that good 6 years ago... reason why brugge held on so long in the running for the title. should have gone abroad instead of renewing

    currently, he's just an average keeper, back then he was fantastic

    but i take none of you actually watched him week in week out back then
     

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