Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (52 Viewers)

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    Mubarak's speech translated

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/02/president-hosni-mubarak-egypt-speech

    Obama' speech:

    Good evening everybody. Over the past few days, the American people have watched the situation unfolding in Egypt. We've seen enormous demonstrations by the Egyptian people. We've borne witness to the beginning of a new chapter in the history of a great country, and a long-time partner of the United States.

    And my administration has been in close contact with our Egyptian counterparts and a broad range of the Egyptian people, as well as others across the region and across the globe. And throughout this period, we've stood for a set of core principles.

    First, we oppose violence. And I want to commend the Egyptian military for the professionalism and patriotism that it has shown thus far in allowing peaceful protests while protecting the Egyptian people. We've seen tanks covered with banners, and soldiers and protesters embracing in the streets. And going forward, I urge the military to continue its efforts to help ensure that this time of change is peaceful.

    Second, we stand for universal values, including the rights of the Egyptian people to freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, and the freedom to access information. Once more, we've seen the incredible potential for technology to empower citizens and the dignity of those who stand up for a better future. And going forward, the United States will continue to stand up for democracy and the universal rights that all human beings deserve, in Egypt and around the world.

    Third, we have spoken out on behalf of the need for change. After his speech tonight, I spoke directly to President Mubarak. He recognizes that the status quo is not sustainable and that a change must take place. Indeed, all of us who are privileged to serve in positions of political power do so at the will of our people. Through thousands of years, Egypt has known many moments of transformation. The voices of the Egyptian people tell us that this is one of those moments; this is one of those times.

    Now, it is not the role of any other country to determine Egypt's leaders. Only the Egyptian people can do that. What is clear – and what I indicated tonight to President Mubarak – is my belief that an orderly transition must be meaningful, it must be peaceful, and it must begin now.

    Furthermore, the process must include a broad spectrum of Egyptian voices and opposition parties. It should lead to elections that are free and fair. And it should result in a government that's not only grounded in democratic principles, but is also responsive to the aspirations of the Egyptian people.

    Throughout this process, the United States will continue to extend the hand of partnership and friendship to Egypt. And we stand ready to provide any assistance that is necessary to help the Egyptian people as they manage the aftermath of these protests.

    Over the last few days, the passion and the dignity that has been demonstrated by the people of Egypt has been an inspiration to people around the world, including here in the United States, and to all those who believe in the inevitability of human freedom.

    To the people of Egypt, particularly the young people of Egypt, I want to be clear: We hear your voices. I have an unyielding belief that you will determine your own destiny and seize the promise of a better future for your children and your grandchildren. And I say that as someone who is committed to a partnership between the United States and Egypt.

    There will be difficult days ahead. Many questions about Egypt's future remain unanswered. But I am confident that the people of Egypt will find those answers. That truth can be seen in the sense of community in the streets. It can be seen in the mothers and fathers embracing soldiers. And it can be seen in the Egyptians who linked arms to protect the national museum – a new generation protecting the treasures of antiquity; a human chain connecting a great and ancient civilization to the promise of a new day.
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    Osman

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    I genuinly laughed reading the desperate spin of Mubaraks speech, and the sanctimonous CRAP Obama spewed out. Huge lol at politicans.
     
    Gamaro

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    Aaron said:
    Our stupid media is acting like the Muslim Brotherhood is completely behind the demonstrations and will lead to the end of the world.
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    Another trick by the Israelis,claim that Muslim brotherhood behind everything so the major powers would interfer and keep their ally Mubarak.

    I've been watching CNN for the last 2 days,yes they are always showing Benjamen's speech which is making everyone in the west fear this revolution,and the CNN in response they started promoting El Baradei by saying things like "He is now leading the protesters" "He is now in Tahreer square with them" cos he is a person who can speak and listen to US,but neither El Baradei nor Muslim Brotherhood are leading it,it's a people revolution.

    And Muslim Brotherhood are really overrated,they are not that strong as the westren media trying to imply,they exist for more than 80 years and they could never lead a protest against even a police man.And when Egyptians get their freedom,i don't think that they will vote for them,and you will remember my word.

    Aaron said:
    That's pretty much my position. Let Egypt do what it wants. If it goes to shit, well then that's Egypt's fault. It took France 3 revolutions to get things close to right. Things won't be perfect right away, but as long as it is the will of the Egyptian people then it is in the right direction.
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    Let the Egyptians choose whoever they want,no matter what they choose even if they go for an old style communist party,they should have their right to choose,that's it.


    ReBeL said:
    An Israeli website says that a special forces unit of Hezbollah was behind freeing the resistants of Hamas and Hezbollah from one of the Egyptian prisons. Many Hamas prisoners have already arrived to Gaza since days.
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    Can i know how could that unit enter Egypt? and weren't there in guards in tht prisons?
    And how could those prisons reached Rafah if the Egyptian authority already closed the roads between the cities? And even if we assume that they could reach Rafah,how could they cross it and we know very well that Egyptians don't allow even a rat to pass through it?:shifty:

    The same trick is always used by Israel,"Islamists behind it so it's better to extinguish the flame of this revolution and keep Mubarak".
     
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    Gamaro said:
    Can i know how could that unit enter Egypt? and weren't there in guards in tht prisons?
    And how could those prisons reached Rafah if the Egyptian authority already closed the roads between the cities? And even if we assume that they could reach Rafah,how could they cross it and we know very well that Egyptians don't allow even a rat to pass through it?:shifty:

    The same trick is always used by Israel,"Islamists behind it so it's better to extinguish the flame of this revolution and keep Mubarak".
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    Well, I did not say that the news from the Israeli website was right. They just want to show that all the "enemies of civilization" aka Hezbollah and Hamas are taking part in the chaos in Egypt which gives them the right to interfer to keep Mubarak there.

    Anyway, about your second question, many political prisoners fled their prisons by the help of normal people. Of those, around 5 Hamas guys were captured since years to make pressure on Hamas to kneel to Abbas. Those 5 guys reached Gaza through tunnels, bro.
     
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