Eden Hazard (1 Viewer)
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It was the game against Turkey. I was there, in the stadium. Not booing 
But about the booing: a few people did, but not everyone. Hell not even the majority. And those who did, probably did it because he just made a good run (his first of the game!) right before the sub or because of the fact that other players deserved to be subbed out as well.
But in short, he was useless in that game, just like he has been in most of his NT games so far.
But about the booing: a few people did, but not everyone. Hell not even the majority. And those who did, probably did it because he just made a good run (his first of the game!) right before the sub or because of the fact that other players deserved to be subbed out as well.
But in short, he was useless in that game, just like he has been in most of his NT games so far.
Every now again I saw him for Lille, but definitely not every game.
I'm not uncertain about his technical qualities, my only issue with him is his, for lack of a better word, "attitude".
As soon as things go somewhat wrong (which he has never experienced at Lille when you think about it), he starts acting like a retarded 12 year old.
- Our previous manager (Advocaat) criticized him heavily numerous times because of it, going as far as saying "change, or f*ck off & don't come back". The one before that also had similar issues with him.
- Leaving the dressing room & stadium after being subbed out (that Turkey game, when he sucked) and going for a hamburger with only 1 reason: showing everyone that he doesn't care about the team if he's not playing himself.
- Putting a 1 page ad (open letter if you want) in the papers saying that everyone should love him & that he is being treated wrongly.
- Etc
I wouldn't even have a problem with all these things, if he actually performed for the NT, but he didn't. Prove something first, then act like a whiny little bitch is what I say.
Question is though: why no problems at Lille, yet one episode after the other (regardless of our manager) with the NT? Regardless of the club he ends up at, it's definitely something to take into account imo. Which may explain why teams so far seem to have been hesitant to come up with the big money for him. (Except for PSG.)
I'd still like him at Juve though
I'm not uncertain about his technical qualities, my only issue with him is his, for lack of a better word, "attitude".
As soon as things go somewhat wrong (which he has never experienced at Lille when you think about it), he starts acting like a retarded 12 year old.
- Our previous manager (Advocaat) criticized him heavily numerous times because of it, going as far as saying "change, or f*ck off & don't come back". The one before that also had similar issues with him.
- Leaving the dressing room & stadium after being subbed out (that Turkey game, when he sucked) and going for a hamburger with only 1 reason: showing everyone that he doesn't care about the team if he's not playing himself.
- Putting a 1 page ad (open letter if you want) in the papers saying that everyone should love him & that he is being treated wrongly.
- Etc
I wouldn't even have a problem with all these things, if he actually performed for the NT, but he didn't. Prove something first, then act like a whiny little bitch is what I say.
Question is though: why no problems at Lille, yet one episode after the other (regardless of our manager) with the NT? Regardless of the club he ends up at, it's definitely something to take into account imo. Which may explain why teams so far seem to have been hesitant to come up with the big money for him. (Except for PSG.)
I'd still like him at Juve though
Every now again I saw him for Lille, but definitely not every game.
I'm not uncertain about his technical qualities, my only issue with him is his, for lack of a better word, "attitude".
As soon as things go somewhat wrong (which he has never experienced at Lille when you think about it), he starts acting like a retarded 12 year old.
- Our previous manager (Advocaat) criticized him heavily numerous times because of it, going as far as saying "change, or f*ck off & don't come back". The one before that also had similar issues with him.
- Leaving the dressing room & stadium after being subbed out (that Turkey game, when he sucked) and going for a hamburger with only 1 reason: showing everyone that he doesn't care about the team if he's not playing himself.
- Putting a 1 page ad (open letter if you want) in the papers saying that everyone should love him & that he is being treated wrongly.
- Etc
I wouldn't even have a problem with all these things, if he actually performed for the NT, but he didn't. Prove something first, then act like a whiny little bitch is what I say.
Question is though: why no problems at Lille, yet one episode after the other (regardless of our manager) with the NT? Regardless of the club he ends up at, it's definitely something to take into account imo. Which may explain why teams so far seem to have been hesitant to come up with the big money for him. (Except for PSG.)
I'd still like him at Juve though
I'm not uncertain about his technical qualities, my only issue with him is his, for lack of a better word, "attitude".
As soon as things go somewhat wrong (which he has never experienced at Lille when you think about it), he starts acting like a retarded 12 year old.
- Our previous manager (Advocaat) criticized him heavily numerous times because of it, going as far as saying "change, or f*ck off & don't come back". The one before that also had similar issues with him.
- Leaving the dressing room & stadium after being subbed out (that Turkey game, when he sucked) and going for a hamburger with only 1 reason: showing everyone that he doesn't care about the team if he's not playing himself.
- Putting a 1 page ad (open letter if you want) in the papers saying that everyone should love him & that he is being treated wrongly.
- Etc
I wouldn't even have a problem with all these things, if he actually performed for the NT, but he didn't. Prove something first, then act like a whiny little bitch is what I say.
Question is though: why no problems at Lille, yet one episode after the other (regardless of our manager) with the NT? Regardless of the club he ends up at, it's definitely something to take into account imo. Which may explain why teams so far seem to have been hesitant to come up with the big money for him. (Except for PSG.)
I'd still like him at Juve though
Actually seems like Belgium might have difficulties qualifying for the 2012 championships. Meh.
I think the problem is that, at Lille, he is the star, and he is treated there like that, while at our NT, everyone is equal (ok, there are always a few that are in favour of the coach, but you know the point). IMO, he needs to leave Lille and go to a team where he is one of the 11, that will be the big test for him on a club level.
Undoubtably he has the skills, now to see if he has the character to make it.
And with regard to Euro 2012, chances are small (if not very small), but we always said we were working towards 2014/2016 with the guys we have now and looking at the progress they made the last year, participitating in 2014 and shining (better then a first round that is) in 2016 should be a possibility.
Undoubtably he has the skills, now to see if he has the character to make it.
And with regard to Euro 2012, chances are small (if not very small), but we always said we were working towards 2014/2016 with the guys we have now and looking at the progress they made the last year, participitating in 2014 and shining (better then a first round that is) in 2016 should be a possibility.
Whenever I've seen him at Lille he had a weird position and he surely gets a free role very often, which is something that I don't like. Sure, I don't mind giving players freedom, but he can hardly shape if he keeps playing like that. I don't think he's a 'defined' winger just yet, but I do love him and I think he has a great potential. Manure would probably shape him and make one of the best IMO.
But I still think he's worth of that... 'gamble'.
But I still think he's worth of that... 'gamble'.
Interesting seeing you Belgians talk about his unprofessional side, i've seen both you guys, Chester and Buck criticizing him for that several times. He's never had those sort of problems at Lille, perhaps thats because ever since he was playing for the U19's he was touted as the next big thing, and when he first made his debut there was a lot of anticipation around it, ie, he was their #1 star from the very start.
Also, Dusan you're right in that he gets a free role at Lille, you rarely see him sticking to the wing, sometimes he's behind the striker, sometimes he's on the right, sometimes on the left, he has complete freedom at Lille. You can't blame them though, the guy is literally carrying them, can't imagine how Lille will cope without him.
Also, Dusan you're right in that he gets a free role at Lille, you rarely see him sticking to the wing, sometimes he's behind the striker, sometimes he's on the right, sometimes on the left, he has complete freedom at Lille. You can't blame them though, the guy is literally carrying them, can't imagine how Lille will cope without him.
That is true, and that is also one of the reasons why Lille ask so much money for him, they know he'll be missed a lot.
And Fred, for our NT, he has proven many times already that he still needs to grow on the professional side, that is also why I said he needs to go to another team were he is one of the 11.
But, if he can keep performing for our NT like he did in the last match, then it is clear that what happened a few months ago is in the past and he learned from it.
I hope he is fit tonight, we'll need his creativity to get chances against "the Germans"
And Fred, for our NT, he has proven many times already that he still needs to grow on the professional side, that is also why I said he needs to go to another team were he is one of the 11.
But, if he can keep performing for our NT like he did in the last match, then it is clear that what happened a few months ago is in the past and he learned from it.
I hope he is fit tonight, we'll need his creativity to get chances against "the Germans"