Dubai Virgin Radio Dj fired for offensive comments on god (13 Viewers)
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I'm not saying cracking jokes just to upset people is a good idea. I didn't even say anything about this radio dj being kicked off. But the "inconvenient truth" is that precisely what upsets people is what needs to be said sometimes. I don't want to live in a society where you can't say anything for fear of upsetting someone. Of course you'll upset someone. The very idea that you can express yourself freely without there being anyone who disapproves is ridiculous, it's a fiction. And forcing people to stay silent when they have a legitimate concern just so they don't hurt the delicate sensibilities of others is NOT respect.
There is a difference between trolling and dissent, but if you ban one then the other goes, there's no two ways about it.
I'm not saying cracking jokes just to upset people is a good idea. I didn't even say anything about this radio dj being kicked off. But the "inconvenient truth" is that precisely what upsets people is what needs to be said sometimes. I don't want to live in a society where you can't say anything for fear of upsetting someone. Of course you'll upset someone. The very idea that you can express yourself freely without there being anyone who disapproves is ridiculous, it's a fiction. And forcing people to stay silent when they have a legitimate concern just so they don't hurt the delicate sensibilities of others is NOT respect.
There is a difference between trolling and dissent, but if you ban one then the other goes, there's no two ways about it.
There's a very big difference in upsetting someone,and upsetting almost everyone.That's why i brought in the argument about a Muslim and a Not so religious country.
You have people who have the sense to know what they need to say,and where they need to say it,i dont have any issues with them.i have just problems with people who'll offend the large majority and then back it up with the freedom of speech argument.
Freedom of speech shouldnt allow you to provoke,insult or offend the other person.That's abusing the whole concept of it as far as im concerned.
You have people who have the sense to know what they need to say,and where they need to say it,i dont have any issues with them.i have just problems with people who'll offend the large majority and then back it up with the freedom of speech argument.
Freedom of speech shouldnt allow you to provoke,insult or offend the other person.That's abusing the whole concept of it as far as im concerned.
It's not basic, it implies that without the freedom to insult people, there would be peace.
Perhaps in a way, but that would bring some very dark oppresive totalitaristic states about. I wish not to live in such a world.
Not being able to express your opinion does not equal to understanding people to me. quite the opposite.
I find this offensive, you should be jailed.
Perhaps in a way, but that would bring some very dark oppresive totalitaristic states about. I wish not to live in such a world.
Not being able to express your opinion does not equal to understanding people to me. quite the opposite.
I find this offensive, you should be jailed.
How can one achieve peace and understanding between people when you extend the hand of peace and slap the face with the same hand? Do you shit on your hand when you eat?
How would it bring oppressive totalitarian states? Is there no middle ground here? It's like it's either one extreme or the other extreme with you.
How would it bring oppressive totalitarian states? Is there no middle ground here? It's like it's either one extreme or the other extreme with you.
So how do you make a meaningful distinction? There are laws against libel and such, you can't go around telling falsehoods, there are also laws that protect people's privacy and so on.
But beliefs? How do you defend a law that bans criticism of belief? People can believe any frickin thing they want and that should be above criticism? More importantly, should you?
But beliefs? How do you defend a law that bans criticism of belief? People can believe any frickin thing they want and that should be above criticism? More importantly, should you?
I'd rather have a pile of shit on my hand than be gagged all my life.
No freedom of speech automatically means the end of democracy. There is no middle ground, no. Where would you possibly draw the line on what one can say or not? Freedom of speech implies that there is no line. Create a line and you control what people say or not.
No freedom of speech automatically means the end of democracy. There is no middle ground, no. Where would you possibly draw the line on what one can say or not? Freedom of speech implies that there is no line. Create a line and you control what people say or not.