Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

Many? How many is that exactly? What happens is that mostly children become less religious (pracitce religion less), less often that they completely disown religion and even less often that they convert to another religion. So I wouldnt really say its many many children.

Even if that is true. They are not following the same religion as their parents are they. So therefore the premise that people's religions are theirs because of their parents doesn't hold water. Only in 3rd world countries is this true

 

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[Martin]

Okay, what's the religion of your parents? Christian by any chance? And in your local church how many people there have parents who are Christian?

 

[Zlatan]

Even if that is true. They are not following the same religion as their parents are they. So therefore the premise that people's religions are theirs because of their parents doesn't hold water. Only in 3rd world countries is this true

I dissagree. There are always those that will convert to another religion, but that is a very, very small number that is an exception to the rule. If they stay in the same religion but just practice it less rigorously that is not really changing anything. And luckily, the number of those completely giving up religion is somewhat higher.

So as a rule you are born into a religion (with a very, very small number of exceptions) or you wisen up and become a non-believer

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Okay, what's the religion of your parents? Christian by any chance? And in your local church how many people there have parents who are Christian?

My parents are roman Catholic and I'm a non denominational Christian/ messianic Jew

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I dissagree. There are always those that will convert to another religion, but that is a very, very small number that is an exception to the rule. If they stay in the same religion but just practice it less rigorously that is not really changing anything. And luckily, the number of those completely giving up religion is somewhat higher.

So as a rule you are born into a religion (with a very, very small number of exceptions) or you wisen up and become a non-believer

Your assessment I think is probably somewhere between mine and yours. Unless we can find statistics we wot really know.

 

[Martin]

My parents are roman Catholic and I'm a non denominational Christian/ messianic Jew

I'm sure you think that's a big deal. I don't. You still believe in Jesus, yes?

And besides, your case is the exception.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'm sure you think that's a big deal. I don't. You still believe in Jesus, yes?

And besides, your case is the exception.

Yes but I came to that belief on my own. There was a time I didn't believe in anything.

 

[Kate]

Your assessment I think is probably somewhere between mine and yours. Unless we can find statistics we wot really know.

Statistics are quite easy to find, Google is your friend

 

[AndreaCristiano]

The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life released its Religious Landscape Survey states that 41% of people were found to have switched their religion at some point in life. Unfortunately they don't have a comparative breakdown of individuals who broke away from the family religion versus people who switched as a family. You can find their survey results here: http://religions.pewforum.org

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Statistics are quite easy to find, Google is your friend

Just did it thanks Kate

 

[Martin]

Yes but I came to that belief on my own. There was a time I didn't believe in anything.

You didn't believe in anything? Not even oxygen?

 

[king Ale]

Even if that is true. They are not following the same religion as their parents are they. So therefore the premise that people's religions are theirs because of their parents doesn't hold water. Only in 3rd world countries is this true

There are a few exceptions right which are of course so few in number that are negligible.

I think what the pic says is true except that it's not reason enough to change/stop practicing religions.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

You didn't believe in anything? Not even oxygen?

Lol you know what I mean. I was so disillusioned by the dogmatic approach to Jesus that it didn't jive with my reading I scripture and church history. So for a while in my late teens early 20's I was agnostic really. I knew that something was there just not what. I then slowly started to search and seek and I continue my journey today although Jesus is a def for me now

 

[AndreaCristiano]

In the end I do not believe religion is a requirement for belief in God

 

[Kate]

The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life released its Religious Landscape Survey states that 41% of people were found to have switched their religion at some point in life. Unfortunately they don't have a comparative breakdown of individuals who broke away from the family religion versus people who switched as a family. You can find their survey results here: http://religions.pewforum.org

I'd be a bit wary of those results, as it was commissioned by a Christian organisation, and you can see from their findings they only real care about Catholics and Protestants.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

In the end I do not believe religion is a requirement for belief in God

good job dont let them distract you off the real issue

 

[AndreaCristiano]

good job dont let them distract you off the real issue

Thanks it is the truth. Why does belief in God automatically equal religion ? Just because most believers follow a religion doesn't make the belief in God synonymous

 

[Martin]

good job dont let them distract you off the real issue

you say the most adorable things sometimes

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'd be a bit wary of those results, as it was commissioned by a Christian organisation, and you can see from their findings they only real care about Catholics and Protestants.

Even so its still a microcosm of the question poised above

 

[Kate]

Even so its still a microcosm of the question poised above

A potentially highly inaccurate one.