Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

[king Ale]

So you're saying he's schizo because he has claimed to see ghosts? nice.

Not exactly that but pretty close.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

I got up this morning.

thats really not up to you though

 

[JuveJay]

True, but the last time I tried to kill my neighbour's yappy dog they called the police.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

1st world problems

 

[Martin]

True, but the last time I tried to kill my neighbour's yappy dog they called the police.

Tried and failed? Dog couldn't figure out how to dial?

 

[Golazo]

He exists. True story.

 

[ALC]

ROOFFFFLLLLLL

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

BTW, in terms of the thread topic, this debate is so much better.

 

[Elvin]

Ok, believing in God (superior intelligent being) is fine and all, but how fucking retarded do you have to be to believe that some guy built and arc and put millions of different species in it, who also happen to be part of the same food chain and miraculously didn't end up eating each other...

You gotta be full retard to believe in that crap... I don't care how offensive this sounds, if you believe in the bible you're an idiot!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Ok, believing in God (superior intelligent being) is fine and all, but how $#@!ing retarded do you have to be to believe that some guy built and arc and put millions of different species in it, who also happen to be part of the same food chain and miraculously didn't end up eating each other...

You gotta be full retard to believe in that crap... I don't care how offensive this sounds, if you believe in the bible you're an idiot!

http://youtu.be/IGtFe0vy_zM?t=1m52s

 

[Noodle]

http://youtu.be/IGtFe0vy_zM?t=1m52s

I looooove that episode.

 

[ZoSo]

Ok, believing in God (superior intelligent being) is fine and all, but how fucking retarded do you have to be to believe that some guy built and arc and put millions of different species in it, who also happen to be part of the same food chain and miraculously didn't end up eating each other...

You gotta be full retard to believe in that crap... I don't care how offensive this sounds, if you believe in the bible you're an idiot!

I think you are the one that's full retard because a lot of the bible stories are not meant to be taken literally.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I think you are the one that's full retard because a lot of the bible stories are not meant to be taken literally.

How do you make the distinction?

 

[Martin]

I think you are the one that's full retard because a lot of the bible stories are not meant to be taken literally.

Indeed, to me it's just fables.

But if it's not to be taken literally then what does it mean to you then? There was no actual good Samaritan, that was just a feel good story. There was no creation, just a story. No actual son of god, just a story. So what's the point then?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Indeed, to me it's just fables.

But if it's not to be taken literally then what does it mean to you then? There was no actual good Samaritan, that was just a feel good story. There was no creation, just a story. No actual son of god, just a story. So what's the point then?

the good samaritan was a story Jesus used it in a parable, the son of God existed thats fact creation existed you just have to understand the way the story is told. in the end the beginning of this discussion was is their a creator or not it didnt specify which creator, just if there was one.You non believing members keep bringing in semantics to distract from the core discussion

 

[Zlatan]

the good samaritan was a story Jesus used it in a parable, the son of God existed thats fact creation existed you just have to understand the way the story is told. in the end the beginning of this discussion was is their a creator or not it didnt specify which creator, just if there was one.You non believing members keep bringing in semantics to distract from the core discussion

Thats not a fact in any way posible. Jesus the person might have existed, however it is not a fact he was the son of god.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

the good samaritan was a story Jesus used it in a parable, the son of God existed thats fact creation existed you just have to understand the way the story is told. in the end the beginning of this discussion was is their a creator or not it didnt specify which creator, just if there was one.You non believing members keep bringing in semantics to distract from the core discussion

But what's the point of arguing about a Creator if you dont establish his identity?

 

[Raz]

But what's the point of arguing about a Creator if you dont establish his identity?

What's the point arguing what is his identity if you don't believe in him? That's just time wasted, because no matter what will anyone say you still won't believe in it. Pointless it seems to me.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

What's the point arguing what is his identity if you don't believe in him? That's just time wasted, because no matter what will anyone say you still won't believe in it. Pointless it seems to me.

I'm open to the possibility of a creator. If the claim holds up against out critique, then I shall start to believe in him.

Now let's get down to it.

 

[Raz]

I'm open to the possibility of a creator. If the claim holds up against out critique, then I shall start to believe in him.

Now let's get down to it.

I have read you several times here saying you are not searching for him, that you have already made your mind up about this issue. And to be honest it does seem like it, you do seem to have moved in to live in the box where only numbers and technocratic explanations are possible. In this box and by the rules that apply in this box you will never find or believe in god.

So unless you are prepared to move outside it I see no point in discussing about god.

Like someone here said before, it was Tahir maybe? There are two different worlds, physical and spiritual, and I agree with it. And I think that one can't detect spiritual world with physical methods.