Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (28 Viewers)
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you make no sense. So for you its impossible to believe that Yeshua was ressurected but the supposed miraculous and strange events that go with mohammed are acceptable? Just some food for thought maybe you can see why I believe Yeshua to be son of God and not mohammed. I looked at your alislam site now look at this chart
http://carm.org/religious-movements/islam/comparison-between-jesus-and-muhammad
http://carm.org/religious-movements/islam/comparison-between-jesus-and-muhammad
I've never seen this side of you before. I'm not sure how I feel about this though.Lemme ask you, do prophecies and prophets not count as hocus pocus too?
What you posted don't mention a single 'maraculous and strange events' surrounding Prophet Muhammad so I can't tell what you're referring to and therefore can't explain my point of view.
But why are you making this into a Muhammad v Jesus thing? I'm asking you about what you believe and to explain it to me.
PS: I'll have you know that many Muslims believe that Jesus didn't die on the cross but that a look-a-like was put on the cross by God and that the actual person ascended into heaven and that he'll one day return, much like what you believe. That's something I don't believe in. So some of the mainstream teachings you'll find and question me about will give you different answers than what these anti-Islamic websites you're using as your source.
why is the spiritual world separate from the physical is your soul separate from your body? No
Im not taking it in a verses scenario its just an easy way to explain
Also I know the bold you dont have to explain islam to me i have studied it extensively, ps you dont seem like a muslim at all, you dont believe in anything your faith explains happened
ppss this is in all respect, no malice etc
, man lived inside a "big/large fish" (not a whale) 
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Also this is one of the funniest things i've seen today
http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Bible-Ki...?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
Love this one
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304 of 330 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars NOT FOR CHILDREN, July 15, 2011
By
Count Barnold Livingston - See all my reviews
This review is from: The Holy Bible: King James Version (Paperback)
This novel was a sort of dark read. From the first book, there are already gratuitous implications of incest, brain-bashing, and some other really messed up stuff (don't want to spoil it for those of you who love creepypasta like this novel). Throughout the first chapter of this novel (there are two very long chapters, each with several mock accounts by some very creative novelists) there are more and more references and even direct accounts of God destroying people for not worshipping him the right way. Oh, and NEVAR create a bronze, gold, or even Papier-mâché symbol of God, he does NOT like it. He gets all jealous because he has separation anxiety, and he gets violent really quickly. But we stick with him, because we know he'll change when he realizes we're not going anywhere. This novel was pretty exciting, approximately until the book of Psalms and the book of Proverbs.
Then the Bible started to lull. Honestly, it could've been cut off after the first four books; after that there's not really much suspense of whether the characters would survive or be totally annihilated by their creator and friend, the moody, adolescent God. After these there are some very depressing poems and some prose which is equally depressing. There is a VERY sensual book called Song of Solomon. The smut-peddling author is describing the minutiae of his lover's body (female, presumably; although possibly a man with Gynecomastia and a tight rear-end) and talking about secksing her up really good, and there's a massage to completion and it's very disturbing. Not an easy read: I felt like I was reading smut when I pulled it out in public (probably shouldn't have been touching myself, but come on: bible readers, back me up on this!). After that some pretty boring stuff happens, but it's just a prologue to the next section of the book, called the New Testament, sometimes the New Testament of Jesus Christ (the protagonist in this section).
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http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Bible-Ki...?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
Love this one
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304 of 330 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars NOT FOR CHILDREN, July 15, 2011
By
Count Barnold Livingston - See all my reviews
This review is from: The Holy Bible: King James Version (Paperback)
This novel was a sort of dark read. From the first book, there are already gratuitous implications of incest, brain-bashing, and some other really messed up stuff (don't want to spoil it for those of you who love creepypasta like this novel). Throughout the first chapter of this novel (there are two very long chapters, each with several mock accounts by some very creative novelists) there are more and more references and even direct accounts of God destroying people for not worshipping him the right way. Oh, and NEVAR create a bronze, gold, or even Papier-mâché symbol of God, he does NOT like it. He gets all jealous because he has separation anxiety, and he gets violent really quickly. But we stick with him, because we know he'll change when he realizes we're not going anywhere. This novel was pretty exciting, approximately until the book of Psalms and the book of Proverbs.
Then the Bible started to lull. Honestly, it could've been cut off after the first four books; after that there's not really much suspense of whether the characters would survive or be totally annihilated by their creator and friend, the moody, adolescent God. After these there are some very depressing poems and some prose which is equally depressing. There is a VERY sensual book called Song of Solomon. The smut-peddling author is describing the minutiae of his lover's body (female, presumably; although possibly a man with Gynecomastia and a tight rear-end) and talking about secksing her up really good, and there's a massage to completion and it's very disturbing. Not an easy read: I felt like I was reading smut when I pulled it out in public (probably shouldn't have been touching myself, but come on: bible readers, back me up on this!). After that some pretty boring stuff happens, but it's just a prologue to the next section of the book, called the New Testament, sometimes the New Testament of Jesus Christ (the protagonist in this section).
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Your soul is not physical though. When you pray aren't you trying spiritually "communicating"? It's not something you do face to face physically or over some sort of physical device.
No that's fine, I don't intend any malice either.
I am a Muslim who has accepted the reformer of the age; the 2nd coming. He didn't bring any new laws (i.e. Torah, Bible, Quran) but came with the same message which people had begun to go astray from. You're not the first one to think we (Ahmadi's) are non-Muslim though. We're persecuted in many countries and declared non-Muslim by law in Pakistan...something that's against Islamic teachings which goes to show the current state of Islam.
No that's fine, I don't intend any malice either.
I am a Muslim who has accepted the reformer of the age; the 2nd coming. He didn't bring any new laws (i.e. Torah, Bible, Quran) but came with the same message which people had begun to go astray from. You're not the first one to think we (Ahmadi's) are non-Muslim though. We're persecuted in many countries and declared non-Muslim by law in Pakistan...something that's against Islamic teachings which goes to show the current state of Islam.
As a piece of a pomegranate are thy temples within thy locks.
There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number.
My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.
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We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for?
If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver: and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar.
I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favo
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/Bible/Song_of_Solomon.html
There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number.
My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.
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We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for?
If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver: and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar.
I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favo
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/Bible/Song_of_Solomon.html
