Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (25 Viewers)

[Ford Prefect]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_syndrome
medical ressurection

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its not stupid you just seem to be the only one who doesnt understand it

Thinking hard about fiction doesn't make you a more intelligent person, I could sit down and study Harry Potter and truly understand the meaning of it....doesn't change what it is...something written by a person - not god (don't try and claim divine inspiration, its what is now called delusional behaviour).

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_syndrome
medical ressurection

25 cases huh? In that case, this can surely be termed as a natural phenomena, although a rare one. Thank you for proving that Jesus' resurrection was not divine, therefore disapproving his divinity.

 

[NinjaPoggy]

jasper, you are miserable

Andrea, you too. Everything can be explained by science, sooner or later. Looking for miracles is stupid coz there are none. If you witness a miracle the whole point of religion goes outta the window.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Thinking hard about fiction doesn't make you a more intelligent person, I could sit down and study Harry Potter and truly understand the meaning of it....doesn't change what it is...something written by a person - not god (don't try and claim divine inspiration, its what is now called delusional behaviour).

your arrogance and obnoxiousness doesnt make you look any more intelligent my man. Out of the 6.7 billion on this planet about 6 billion believe in God and about 4+ billion believe in that supposed fiction.

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jasper, you are miserable

Andrea, you too. Everything can be explained by science, sooner or later. Looking for miracles is stupid coz there are none. If you witness a miracle the whole point of religion goes outta the window.

how does experience a miracle throw religion out the window yet alone faith in God lol lol

 

[ALC]

Evolution is 100% real. If God exists, he didn't create humans per se, we evolved from the first bipedal hominids, who in turn evolved from other primates and so on.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

25 cases huh? In that case, this can surely be termed as a natural phenomena, although a rare one. Thank you for proving that Jesus' resurrection was not divine, therefore disapproving his divinity.

I didnt disprove anything. Just because that syndrome exists doesnt mean the origins arent divine. To me everything is divine science is just terms we understand that explains that divinity.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Where does it resurrection is against the rules? Doctors do it?

That 'resurrection' you speak of is actually what the Bible refers to when it speaks of Jesus' resurrection from a comatose state but that's a different topic.

Anyway, to answer your question...Doctors can't and will never be able to resurrect a person who has died thousands of years ago.

Any other explanations?

See I never get this nit picking at individual things in religion. So you're fine believing in an omnipresent bearded man who transcends time and space to rule from the sky but when he resurrects someone that's too much for you? That's the uncrossable line?

See I never understood how atheists who don't have any knowledge of different faiths seek out to challenge people of faith. All you have is your belief: there is no God, and you think you're ready to argue.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Evolution is 100% real. If God exists, he didn't create humans per se, we evolved from the first bipedal hominids, who in turn evolved from other primates and so on.

so if God sets the creation in motion and the humans evolving is part of it, then God created humans

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-c001.html

Ok. What about the Hindu creation myth? And the Chinese creation myth.

Our how about all the creation myths listed on Wikipedia?

 

[ALC]

so if God sets the creation in motion and the humans evolving is part of it, then God created humans

right, i'm referring to the ones who think god only created humans, and buried the dinosaur bones to weed out the nonbelievers and shit like that.

 

[NinjaPoggy]

your arrogance and obnoxiousness doesnt make you look any more intelligent my man. Out of the 6.7 billion on this planet about 6 billion believe in God and about 4+ billion believe in that supposed fiction.

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how does experience a miracle throw religion out the window yet alone faith in God lol lol

Because for a non believer it becomes easier to believe if he sees one, dontcha think?

 

[Zé Tahir]

"God make Man?" - what else can that mean?....If you don't agree with either point then don't vote, but that question clearly leads to creationism....its asking if you agee that god created man.....

Believing that God created man and creationism don't necessarily have to go hand in hand. I believe God created everything so who said that process of evolution cant' fall under that umbrella?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

"God make Man?" - what else can that mean?....If you don't agree with either point then don't vote, but that question clearly leads to creationism....its asking if you agee that god created man.....

no it doesnt, you;re more close-minded than the people you constantly complain about

 

[Ford Prefect]

jasper, you are miserable

Andrea, you too. Everything can be explained by science, sooner or later. Looking for miracles is stupid coz there are none. If you witness a miracle the whole point of religion goes outta the window.

If you feel that way then fine, you only know me in debate mode - I don't make assumptions about someones character based on debates, I just analyse their ideologies to understand their view point and then point out how stupid it is.

your arrogance and obnoxiousness doesnt make you look any more intelligent my man. Out of the 6.7 billion on this planet about 6 billion believe in God and about 4+ billion believe in that supposed fiction.

Good to know you can speak on behalf of 6 000 000 000 people....and you claim that I am arrogant? And it is fiction

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I didnt disprove anything. Just because that syndrome exists doesnt mean the origins arent divine. To me everything is divine science is just terms we understand that explains that divinity.

Until you prove that it has divine origins, they will continue to have a natural origin. Natural explanations are ALWAYS more plausible than supernatural ones.

so if God sets the creation in motion and the humans evolving is part of it, then God created humans

How do know that god set it in motion? Better yet, how do you know that YOUR god set it in motion and not, say, the Hindu god Brahma?

 

[Zé Tahir]

no it doesnt, you;re more close-minded than the people you constantly complain about

Yeah, Jasper you're like the atheist equivalent to a Tele-evangelist preacher. You're a smart kid and at times a good person to have a discussion with but you need to calm down.

 

[Trequartista]

jasper, chill out man.

No one here is more intelligent than someone else because of their belief in a deity or not.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Believing that God created man and creationism don't necessarily have to go hand in hand. I believe God created everything so who said that process of evolution cant' fall under that umbrella?

Religion and science are incompatable, they teach opposite doctrines - one teaches to accept and one teaches to question. I prefer to question.

no it doesnt, you;re more close-minded than the people you constantly complain about

You say that knowing nothing about me aside from words typed with no affectation? You know that I could say exactly the same thing about anyone on here and it would be as redudant as you saying it to me now. My appologies for standing by my ideologies.

 

[X Æ A-12]

All you have is your belief: there is no God, and you think you're ready to argue.

And you're as arrogant as you accuse Jasper of being.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Yeah, Jasper you're like the atheist equivalent to a Tele-evangelist preacher. You're a smart kid and at times a good person to have a discussion with but you need to calm down.

....words typed on a screen....no affectation....my writting style....currently laughing watching blackadder....I don't really get worked up I am just liberal with words which others percieve as aggressive - no one ever says this stuff to me in vocal debates.