Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (19 Viewers)

[Seven]

Honestly, we don't know shit about the 'behind curtains' of the universe. And probably never will.

We will, but the answer will be too complex for most of us to grasp.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

Then we'll settle for the easier/dumber answer: god.

 

[Elvin]

God is probably an entity much like Dr. Manhattan -- cold and detached. Why would he care? It's not his style to care.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Believers using bible quotes as arguments. That is so full of win, it's unbelievable.

I was using it to show naggar that the bible , like he claims A) never says there is another prophet after Jesus and B) Never calls mohammed anything as he said they call him a false prophet. So he needs to educate himself on Christianity before making such claims

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Then we'll settle for the easier/dumber answer: god.

Funny that you call that the easier dumber answer, when in reality God isnt comprehensible to atheists so they dismiss him as an impossibility and a fairy tale

 

[Buck Fuddy]

God is probably an entity much like Dr. Manhattan

Come on now, Elvin. I think that may be a tad disrespectful to people who believe.


I mean, Dr. Manhattan is nothing more than a man- made character (or entity) that only exists in some stories/books.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Funny that you call that the easier dumber answer, when in reality God isnt comprehensible to atheists so they dismiss him as an impossibility and a fairy tale

I meant it as the answer to the question. It's easier to believe that god does it all rather than actually find out how things work.

 

[JuveJay]

God isn't about comprehension, anyway. It's about belief. AC is essentially saying atheists are dumb because they can't comprehend god. I can comprehend the possibility of a god, which is why I don't rule it out. But I see absolutely no evidence for it.

 

[Martin]

Funny that you call that the easier dumber answer, when in reality God isnt comprehensible to atheists so they dismiss him as an impossibility and a fairy tale

Sheik is right. "god" is a simplistic answer, because god is defined in such a way as to be incomprehensible by definition, which is why you can try for all eternity to understand "him" and you won't. So people stop quickly.

That's a pretty good description of a lazy way out. Define the problem unsolvable, voila my work is done.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

God isn't about comprehension, anyway. It's about belief. AC is essentially saying atheists are dumb because they can't comprehend god. I can comprehend the possibility of a god, which is why I don't rule it out. But I see absolutely no evidence for it.

I never said anyone is dumb, I said for them it is incomprehensible, thats a different thing all together

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I meant it as the answer to the question. It's easier to believe that god does it all rather than actually find out how things work.

So how do you describe me a firm believer in God and his son yet I search for answers in faith and science ?

 

[JuveJay]

I never said anyone is dumb, I said for them it is incomprehensible, thats a different thing all together

com·pre·hend/ˌkämpriˈhend/
Verb:
Grasp mentally; understand.
Include, comprise, or encompass.

OK, you didn't say the word 'dumb', but it means the same.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

com·pre·hend/ˌkämpriˈhend/
Verb:
Grasp mentally; understand.
Include, comprise, or encompass.

OK, you didn't say the word 'dumb', but it means the same.

No it doesnt, dictionary man. Just because one can't understand a concept doesn't make one dumb. If a person can't understand quantum psychics they arent dumb. They just cant understand that principle. same with atheists, they are no way dumb people just can't grasp the concept of God. so stop making it look like I'm offending people

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So how do you describe me a firm believer in God and his son yet I search for answers in faith and science ?

I would describe that as redundant.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

No it doesnt, dictionary man. Just because one can't understand a concept doesn't make one dumb. If a person can't understand quantum psychics they arent dumb. They just cant understand that principle. same with atheists, they are no way dumb people just can't grasp the concept of God. so stop making it look like I'm offending people

What the fuck is this idiocy of criticizing someone for using a dictionary for a definition? How else are we to have a standard definition to build our arguments upon? Stop this shit, right now!

 

[JuveJay]

No it doesnt, dictionary man. Just because one can't understand a concept doesn't make one dumb. If a person can't understand quantum psychics they arent dumb. They just cant understand that principle. same with atheists, they are no way dumb people just can't grasp the concept of God. so stop making it look like I'm offending people

I'm offended.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'm offended.

What a shock, i noticed your vagina was showing, so i figured you would be

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What the fuck is this idiocy of criticizing someone for using a dictionary for a definition? How else are we to have a standard definition to build our arguments upon? Stop this shit, right now!

 

[JuveJay]

What a shock, i noticed your vagina was showing, so i figured you would be

See, you were just trying to offend people all along.

 

[ALC]

I'm pretty sure atheists understand/"grasp" the concept, they just don't believe in it.