Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (19 Viewers)
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So the big crunch indeed means the end of the Universe. That's what the Quran say about it.
First about the universe it's saying it's expanding and when the day will come :
" That Day We will fold up heaven like folding up the pages of a book. As We originated the first creation so We will regenerate it. It is a promise binding on Us. That is what We will do. (Qur’an, 21:104)
I can't see how this is contradicting science ?
First about the universe it's saying it's expanding and when the day will come :
" That Day We will fold up heaven like folding up the pages of a book. As We originated the first creation so We will regenerate it. It is a promise binding on Us. That is what We will do. (Qur’an, 21:104)
I can't see how this is contradicting science ?
http://www.cracked.com/article_19479_the-6-most-mind-blowing-things-ever-discovered-in-space.html
Pretty cool article. #1 even says we can see light from during the Big Bang. Not meant to piss of the religious, just thought this was a good place to post it.
Pretty cool article. #1 even says we can see light from during the Big Bang. Not meant to piss of the religious, just thought this was a good place to post it.
What are scientific theories if not interpretations? All Qur'anic verses are interpretations until when/if their is proof of them.
If you think those verses can be interpreted in a way to suggest a flat earth than it's not the books fault but the readers. Sura Al-Kahf was revealed because:
How you got that it contains anything that suggests the earth is flat when the meaning of the Sura is "The cave" and has something to do with a Rabbi challenging the Holy Prophet, I don't know. Then again, I'm not surprised either.
If you think those verses can be interpreted in a way to suggest a flat earth than it's not the books fault but the readers. Sura Al-Kahf was revealed because:
How you got that it contains anything that suggests the earth is flat when the meaning of the Sura is "The cave" and has something to do with a Rabbi challenging the Holy Prophet, I don't know. Then again, I'm not surprised either.
I'm not an expert on other religions, but from an Islamic point of view, that is actually not advised.
There was a story of one of the prophets companions who dedicated his whole life to worshipping God, all he did was fast and pray. So one time his mother who was worried about him went to the prophet and told him about her son. When the said companion came to visit the prophet, the latter offered the former some food, to which the companion refused saying that he was fasting. The prophet insisted very hardly that he eat and break his fast, so the companion did. The prophet decided to stay with him for the night, so when the night came, the companion got up to pray, the prophet asked him not to, and then explained to him that in Islam, your body has a right over you, your family has a right over you etc.
Anyway here is the full translated hadith:
"The Prophet (pbuh) declared Salman and Abu Darda' brothers. One day, Salman visited Abu Darda'. He found his wife wearing shabby clothes. He asked her, "What is the matter with you Umm Darda'?" She said, "Your brother, Abu Darda' stands in prayer all the night and fasts all the day. He no longer wants anything from this worldly life. Then Abu Darda' came back greeted him and had some food prepared for him. Salman said, "You have to eat with me" Abu Darda' said, "I am fasting." But Salman swore an oath that he must eat with him" Accordingly, they ate together. At night, Abu Darda' wanted to spend the night in prayer but Salman asked him not to do (in that night). Then, he said, "Your body has a right over you and your wife has a right over you. Observe the fast sometimes and also leave it (the fast) at other times; stand up for the prayer at night and also approach your wife at another night. Thus you have to give every thing its right. In the morning Abu Darda' told the Prophet (pbuh) what Salman had done with him. The Prophet (pbuh), repeating Salman statement, said, "Abu Darda'! Your body has a right over you...”
There was a story of one of the prophets companions who dedicated his whole life to worshipping God, all he did was fast and pray. So one time his mother who was worried about him went to the prophet and told him about her son. When the said companion came to visit the prophet, the latter offered the former some food, to which the companion refused saying that he was fasting. The prophet insisted very hardly that he eat and break his fast, so the companion did. The prophet decided to stay with him for the night, so when the night came, the companion got up to pray, the prophet asked him not to, and then explained to him that in Islam, your body has a right over you, your family has a right over you etc.
Anyway here is the full translated hadith:
"The Prophet (pbuh) declared Salman and Abu Darda' brothers. One day, Salman visited Abu Darda'. He found his wife wearing shabby clothes. He asked her, "What is the matter with you Umm Darda'?" She said, "Your brother, Abu Darda' stands in prayer all the night and fasts all the day. He no longer wants anything from this worldly life. Then Abu Darda' came back greeted him and had some food prepared for him. Salman said, "You have to eat with me" Abu Darda' said, "I am fasting." But Salman swore an oath that he must eat with him" Accordingly, they ate together. At night, Abu Darda' wanted to spend the night in prayer but Salman asked him not to do (in that night). Then, he said, "Your body has a right over you and your wife has a right over you. Observe the fast sometimes and also leave it (the fast) at other times; stand up for the prayer at night and also approach your wife at another night. Thus you have to give every thing its right. In the morning Abu Darda' told the Prophet (pbuh) what Salman had done with him. The Prophet (pbuh), repeating Salman statement, said, "Abu Darda'! Your body has a right over you...”
