Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (26 Viewers)

[Martin]

Yeah, those people are $#@!ed up in the head themselves.

The Americans have moved on. There's no more talking, just pills. The average visit lasts 12 minutes.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

It seems you are more angry with what you don't undestand, not that you can't comunicate with it.

You can't expect me to understand something that is illogical to me. I've heard arguments from both sides, but I find the arguments from the other side easier to understand. Why should I be angry at that?

People do confirm their belief in god even though outside may (people like you) say otherwise.

What kind of people though? Christians will confirm their belief in Christ, Hindus will confirm their belief in one of several Hindu deities, Sikhs will confirm their belief in Waheguru. Which one am I supposed to believe?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What do you think about drugs and their place in your religion? I have a friend who is sort of die hard protestant, he wouldn't be making these kind of statements, he would be drugs are bad and anything under influence of them can be discarded. I'm just curious why would you side with the drug expirience and it's validity?

I do believe that drugs may strip inhibitions and open up gateways per se. A person on a drug powerful enough to remove those inhibitions may allow that person ton experience something which he normally would be predisposed to not allow himself to experience

 

[Martin]

That's my point. So how can they be discounted just because it wasn't shared. Hallucinations have brought forth a lot of the worlds best art and even some important discoveries. So because one user didn't experience the same then it can not be a discounted experience.

Without independent verification it's not science. Just hearsay. In court they don't admit this either.

 

[swag]

The Americans have moved on. There's no more talking, just pills. The average visit lasts 12 minutes.

Health care insurers confer.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Smart people they were

I'm more interested in andreas view, since he's christian.

Cool.

He also blames Juve when his local cable provider doesn't air their matches.

Nah, in that case, I blame cricket.

 

[Trequartista]

The Americans have moved on. There's no more talking, just pills. The average visit lasts 12 minutes.

Addictions to pharmaceutical drugs in the US are through the roof, killing thousands every year.

Pills=$$$

 

[Martin]

Health care insurers confer.

Why sell your time at an hourly rate when you can sell a pill and play golf.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

You can't expect me to understand something that is illogical to me. I've heard arguments from both sides, but I find the arguments from the other side easier to understand. Why should I be angry at that?



What kind of people though? Christians will confirm their belief in Christ, Hindus will confirm their belief in one of several Hindu deities, Sikhs will confirm their belief in Waheguru. Which one am I supposed to believe?

In the end that is just semantics. The one God creator of all the essence if you will stripped away from religious dogma and ideas of what or who that God is is always constant. God is all and God is one

 

[swag]

Nah, in that case, I blame cricket.

And so you should!

Addictions to pharmaceutical drugs in the US are through the roof, killing thousands every year.

Pills=$$$

Pharmageddon, baby!

 

[Martin]

Addictions to pharmaceutical drugs in the US are through the roof, killing thousands every year.

Pills=$$$

That's nothing a pill won't cure.

 

[Trequartista]

And so you should!



Pharmageddon, baby!

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Without independent verification it's not science. Just hearsay. In court they don't admit this either.

Yes but not everything can fit inside a nice little box of evidence and verification that's the problem

 

[Trequartista]

That's nothing a pill won't cure.

 

[Raz]

What kind of people though? Christians will confirm their belief in Christ, Hindus will confirm their belief in one of several Hindu deities, Sikhs will confirm their belief in Waheguru. Which one am I supposed to believe?

I find this argument the most boring. God is god, and mostly we get the name of god from where we are born, but that doesn't change the fact that they all believe in god.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I find this argument the most boring. God is god, and mostly we get the name of god from where we are born, but that doesn't change the fact that they all believe in god.

Yep just basically summed up the same in an above post

 

[ALC]

pills are the cocaine of the 70s but you don't see the white house wage a war on that.

 

[Martin]

Yes but not everything can fit inside a nice little box of evidence and verification that's the problem

So if a man said in court that he killed someone because God told him to, would you let him go?

 

[Trequartista]

pills are the cocaine of the 70s but you don't see the white house wage a war on that.

That's because pharmaceutical companies bribe politicians though campaign funding.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

In the end that is just semantics. The one God creator of all the essence if you will stripped away from religious dogma and ideas of what or who that God is is always constant. God is all and God is one

I've said time and again that if all these gods embody just 1 god, then it leads to a lot of contradictory claims in various scriptures. It creates more confusion as to the nature of god. This explanation is something I come across a lot when speaking with Hindus. But they fail to go into details that are contradictory within different religions. It's not a good explanation. Period.