Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (29 Viewers)

[Trequartista]

Well you're the one watching Ligue 1, not us.

I've stop doing that to myself a long time ago.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

You don't like it stay out of the thread if not shut up and join in

At least I agree with you here.

I must be insane, I'm repeating the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

At least you're not reading Cronios' posts.

 

[Martin]

I've stop doing that to myself a long time ago.

But apparently you're still re-living it cause you keep talking about it. Trauma does that.

 

[Raz]

Yes, it's a 2-way street. I've asked many times, especially when I was younger and without any doubt in god, to speak to me. Sadly, I heard nothing. But yes, go ahead and blame ME for gods' reluctance to communicate with me.

And this just seems angry.

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Still incorrect.

I'm not the only one to make this observation. If that counts for anything.

 

[Trequartista]

But apparently you're still re-living it cause you keep talking about it. Trauma does that.

That's true.

I must be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

At least you're not reading Cronios' posts.

Stopped doing that too a while ago, life is thus happier.
I only read his (rare) one-liners nowadays

 

[Raz]

That's true.

I must be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

Just remember, god loves you

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No, you're not getting it. You keep saying that we are discarding your personal experience as proof of god. That's exactly like discarding the personal experience of someone hallucinating. It can't be independently verified, so it's discarded.

No I guess that would be the same as we don't know what the hallucinations were so we would have to take their experienceinto account

 

[Martin]

That's true.

I must be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

Do you have mental health care over there in Quebe?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

At least I agree with you here.



At least you're not reading Cronios' posts.

We agree on most things just not God lol

 

[Trequartista]

Just remember, god loves you

I'm sure he does.

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Do you have mental health care over there in Quebe?

Yep, and it's free.

 

[Martin]

No I guess that would be the same as we don't know what the hallucinations were so we would have to take their experienceinto account

What experience? The hallucinations were the experience.

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Yep, and it's free.

Kaching. Do you have a psy?

 

[Raz]

No I guess that would be the same as we don't know what the hallucinations were so we would have to take their experienceinto account

What do you think about drugs and their place in your religion? I have a friend who is sort of die hard protestant, he wouldn't be making these kind of statements, he would be drugs are bad and anything under influence of them can be discarded. I'm just curious why would you side with the drug expirience and it's validity?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

And this just seems angry.

Angry cos I'm blamed for not being able to communicate with a being that's outside space and time? You betcha!

I'm not the only one to make this observation. If that counts for anything.

It doesn't. What counts is what I confirm about myself.

 

[Trequartista]

Kaching. Do you have a psy?

Nope, I guess I should look for one.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

What do you think about drugs and their place in your religion? I have a friend who is sort of die hard protestant, he wouldn't be making these kind of statements, he would be drugs are bad and anything under influence of them can be discarded. I'm just curious why would you side with the drug expirience and it's validity?

If anything, Hindu sages used to smoke marijuana before meditating. They saw it as essential to spiritual enlightenment.

 

[Martin]

Nope, I guess I should look for one.

I hear psychiatry in France is overrun by Freudians. You better watch out.

 

[Raz]

Angry cos I'm blamed for not being able to communicate with a being that's outside space and time? You betcha!



It doesn't. What counts is what I confirm about myself.

It seems you are more angry with what you don't undestand, not that you can't comunicate with it.

And if that's what only counts, why are you so opposed to the idea of god? People do confirm their belief in god even though outside may (people like you) say otherwise.

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If anything, Hindu sages used to smoke marijuana before meditating. They saw it as essential to spiritual enlightenment.

Smart people they were

I'm more interested in andreas view, since he's christian.

 

[swag]

Angry cos I'm blamed for not being able to communicate with a being that's outside space and time? You betcha!

He also blames Juve when his local cable provider doesn't air their matches.

 

[Trequartista]

I hear psychiatry in France is overrun by Freudians. You better watch out.

Yeah, those people are fucked up in the head themselves.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What experience? The hallucinations were the experience.

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Kaching. Do you have a psy?

That's my point. So how can they be discounted just because it wasn't shared. Hallucinations have brought forth a lot of the worlds best art and even some important discoveries. So because one user didn't experience the same then it can not be a discounted experience.