Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (13 Viewers)

[Sheik Yerbouti]

*waits for Deneb to refute his arguments*

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

man if this guy is smart as you guys make him out to be, he should sue you for defamation

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

 

[Fientina]

Yes God exists, and if anyone thinks otherwise than they are deranged.

History proves this.

 

[Martin]

Yes God exists, and if anyone thinks otherwise than they are deranged.

History proves this.

Is this a new comedy account?

 

[Salvo]

No he is a mate of mine . He is deeply religious apparently.

 

[Fientina]

Is this a new comedy account?

Not at all. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

 

[Salvo]

No.

 

[Fientina]

No.

Convince me otherwise.

 

[Zlatan]

Not at all. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

The neccessary complexity of such a designer who is capable of designing such a complex world points to that he had to be designed himself, i.e. that he couldnt come from nothing. And that means he isnt the beginning of everything like religions say.

And if it possible that god exists out of nothing, why isnt it possible that the universe, which is of lesser complexity than god, exists without being created by god?

 

[Martin]

Not at all. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

Considering how imperfect and unstable this place is (earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, bird flu, mad cow disease, the plague etc) I'd say he's more of a graffiti artist.

 

[Salvo]

 

[Fientina]

God will smite you all.

I got nothing else.

 

[Salvo]

Jovetic will come to juve, as per gods wishes.

 

[ZoSo]

The neccessary complexity of such a designer who is capable of designing such a complex world points to that he had to be designed himself, i.e. that he couldnt come from nothing. And that means he isnt the beginning of everything like religions say.

And if it possible that god exists out of nothing, why isnt it possible that the universe, which is of lesser complexity than god, exists without being created by god?

How would anyone know that god is more complex than the universe?

 

[JuveJay]

Not at all. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

Whose double account is this?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Wow.

 

[Salvo]

It isn't a double account, he is a friend of mine. Apparently a competent troll as well .

 

[JuveJay]

He found the best thread for it.

 

[Zlatan]

How would anyone know that god is more complex than the universe?

The logic is that in order to create a "perfect" universe and control it as an omnipotent being, god neccessarily has to be more complex than the universe.

Then the question is of odds: where are the odds higher, that the universe exists without a creator or that the god who created the universe exists without its own creator.