Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (21 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

well then thats idiotic, so I can say those words and go on and rape and kill and I'm all good because I said those words? If so no wonder terrorists get away with their bullshit and no one condemns them.

Isn't Christianity the exact same way?

 

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[JuveJay]

well then thats idiotic, so I can say those words and go on and rape and kill and I'm all good because I said those words? If so no wonder terrorists get away with their bullshit and no one condemns them.

Just repent.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

لَا يَدْخُلُ النَّارَ يَعْنِي مَنْ كَانَ فِي قَلْبِهِ مِثْقَالُ ذَرَّةٍ مِنْ إِيمَانٍ

Prophet Mohammed "A man who has as little as one atom of believe in his heart won't go to hell".

belief is different from simple utterance, belief is defined throughly in islamic scripture, and is directly tied to behavior nowhere in the quran is 'belief' alone conidered enough, it is always followed by consecration through action. Once again either you can provide this list where islam details whos going where once they die or show me without fabrication and manipulation where it says that anyone uttering one sentence goes to heaven? or for that fact if anywhere in scripture it is specified any specific action guarantees such fate.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

no because in Christianity just because you say those words they mean nothing without repentance and the desire to live a Christ like life. huge difference

 

[DelpieroForLife]

why dont you finish the quote?

Because it won't change the core idea and I couldn't figure out how to translate it in an understandable English

 

[GordoDeCentral]

no because in Christianity just because you say those words they mean nothing without repentance and the desire to live a Christ like life. huge difference

teh same for all, but the naysayers will manipulate words in spite of the obvious

 

[AndreaCristiano]

belief is different from simple utterance, belief is defined throughly in islamic scripture, and is directly tied to behavior nowhere in the quran is 'belief' alone conidered enough, it is always followed by consecration through action. Once again either you can provide this list where islam details whos going where once they die or show me without fabrication and manipulation where it says that anyone uttering one sentence goes to heaven? or for that fact if anywhere in scripture it is specified any specific action guarantees such fate.

This is what I knew and thought! Where do these called Christians and Muslims on here go to worship?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Seems like there's more forgiveness in islam than christianity.

 

[X Æ A-12]

no because in Christianity just because you say those words they mean nothing without repentance and the desire to live a Christ like life. huge difference

Meh I don't really see much of a difference.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Seems likeat there's more forgiveness in islam than christianity.

what are u inferring

 

[AndreaCristiano]

no offense but that shows your ignorance about faith

 

[X Æ A-12]

no offense but that shows your ignorance about faith

How so? It's still an institution that preaches all sorts of moral high standards but in the end you can live up to none of them so long as you faith or loyalty.

It's pointless then. It's so bendable to however someone on top of the pyramid wants to use it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

no offense but that shows your ignorance about faith

Meh, whatever. Faith is not a virtue. And unless you demonstrate to me why faith is a good thing, I'm gonna treat it like dog-shit!

 

[DelpieroForLife]

belief is different from simple utterance, belief is defined throughly in islamic scripture, and is directly tied to behavior nowhere in the quran is 'belief' alone conidered enough, it is always followed by consecration through action. Once again either you can provide this list where islam details whos going where once they die or show me without fabrication and manipulation where it says that anyone uttering one sentence goes to heaven? or for that fact if anywhere in scripture it is specified any specific action guarantees such fate.

ما من عبد قال لا إله إلا الله ثم مات على ذلك إلا دخل الجنة قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق على رغم أنف أبي ذر وكان أبو ذر إذا حدث بهذا قال وإن رغم أنف أبي ذر

Prophet Mohammed "A man who said there is no God but Allah and died after will go to heaven, They ask: even if he steal and have sex without marriage? and I reply: even if he steal and have sex without marriage"

 

[Seven]

How so? It's still an institution that preaches all sorts of moral high standards but in the end you can live up to none of them so long as you faith or loyalty.

Damn, Kyle, read what she wrote: it's about the intent.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

How so? It's still an institution that preaches all sorts of moral high standards but in the end you can live up to none of them so long as you faith or loyalty.

who says? many live up to those standards

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Damn, Kyle, read what she wrote: it's about the intent.

thanks seven although im a man

 

[GordoDeCentral]

ما من عبد قال لا إله إلا الله ثم مات على ذلك إلا دخل الجنة قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق على رغم أنف أبي ذر وكان أبو ذر إذا حدث بهذا قال وإن رغم أنف أبي ذر

Prophet Mohammed "A man who said there is no God but Allah and died after will go to heaven, They ask: even if he steal and have sex without marriage? and I reply: even if he steal and have sex without marriage"

once again you manipulate, too bad i can actually read arabic. proceed to translate emboldened.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

ما من عبد قال لا إله إلا الله ثم مات على ذلك إلا دخل الجنة قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق قلت وإن زنى وإن سرق قال وإن زنى وإن سرق على رغم أنف أبي ذر وكان أبو ذر إذا حدث بهذا قال وإن رغم أنف أبي ذر

Prophet Mohammed "A man who said there is no God but Allah and died after will go to heaven, They ask: even if he steal and have sex without marriage? and I reply: even if he steal and have sex without marriage"

Sounds like a good deal.

 

[king Ale]

no because in Christianity just because you say those words they mean nothing without repentance and the desire to live a Christ like life. huge difference

Not really. What about denying those words, yet being desired to live a good life?