Do You Trust the Police? (2 Viewers)

[swag]

I never though about it that way, but yeah. It always seems off-putting to me when someone makes a statement like that.

It happens all the time. Kids become the victims of violence, and they have to beg and plead to raise funds for their medical bills.

A dog walks with a limp on TV, and without asking suddenly it has a trust fund. It's sick and wrong.

 

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It happens all the time. Kids become the victims of violence, and they have to beg and plead to raise funds for their medical bills.

A dog walks with a limp on TV, and without asking suddenly it has a trust fund. It's sick and wrong.

I know exactly what you mean.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Seems like Snoop falls into the classic misanthrope category who value the lives of a dog as much as that of your sister, if not moreso. Those types sicken me almost as much as the people who torture dogs, and my mother is one of them. 40 dead kids burned up on a schoolbus from a tossed Molotov, and it's like, "That's sad." But one whimpering dog with a limp. and it's "Death to the perpetrators!" An 8-year-old boy gets shot in the ghetto, it's time to switch the TV channels. An 8-month-old dog gets shot, and it raises $50,000 from sympathizers.

What perhaps bothers me most about these types of people is that the ultimately devalue human life. They seem only motivated by relationships with things that they can be superior to or control. So when something like another human comes into the picture, and thus has the possibility of challenging their authority or dominance (or God forbid, might make them vulnerable), suddenly they aren't of interest to them. They are not worthy of their care or concern.

But if it's something they can dominate or feel superior to, they're all over it as if it were their own family.

Most sensible post in the entire thread.


As for animals being unable to defend themselves, true in most cases. Sadly, the same thing goes for human beings in many, many cases.

 

[IliveForJuve]

This song says it all.

 

[swag]

My brother has been a cop for about a decade. I did a ride-along with him a couple years ago.

The more obvious issues are abuse of power, a failure to screen out and discipline those who do so, and a naturally confrontational role the police have to play between the haves and the have-nots.

That said, one of the things that I saw in my brother's ride-along is that most of what he does is social work. Every call we had dealt with people who had something clearly fucked up with their lives, their family, or their physical or mental health. Most of his time is spent dealing with victims of life with only a smaller percentage on actual victimizers.

One of his partners, a woman, was ready to beat the crap out of a perp when a call came in that some guy was sexually molesting an underage girl at 8am in a playground... but that was as close as it got to suspicious. (Turns out the girl was 18 but looked 12.)

 

[.zero]

Andrew's thread title is a loaded question to begin with but I will answer it with all honesty. Most cops are pretty much basic civil servants awarded with a gun and a sense of self-importance. Real police work constitutes turning over cases and what not. But you need people to do the dirty work. And in any instance, the people who do the dirty work are the same type of people - the lower end of the education/income spectrum. Yes, most patrol cops, i.e. the ones we come across on a daily basis are the dumb fucks we went to high school with that never were going to amount to anything. I know people will disagree but its the honest truth. These people are no smarter than people who work at airport security, or baggage handlers at the airport. What happens is that you give uneducated people guns and a sense of authority and they will ride it to kingdom come.

All of this applies to cops in every country, for example cops in India are some of the least respected people yet one of the most corrupt-- unskilled, and uneducated, undeserving of respect. Now if we're talking detectives and what not then its a totally different subject. But low-level officers are the bane of society. Especially small town cops.

 

[Bjerknes]

Seems like Snoop falls into the classic misanthrope category who value the lives of a dog as much as that of your sister, if not moreso. Those types sicken me almost as much as the people who torture dogs, and my mother is one of them. 40 dead kids burned up on a schoolbus from a tossed Molotov, and it's like, "That's sad." But one whimpering dog with a limp. and it's "Death to the perpetrators!" An 8-year-old boy gets shot in the ghetto, it's time to switch the TV channels. An 8-month-old dog gets shot, and it raises $50,000 from sympathizers.

What perhaps bothers me most about these types of people is that the ultimately devalue human life. They seem only motivated by relationships with things that they can be superior to or control. So when something like another human comes into the picture, and thus has the possibility of challenging their authority or dominance (or God forbid, might make them vulnerable), suddenly they aren't of interest to them. They are not worthy of their care or concern.

But if it's something they can dominate or feel superior to, they're all over it as if it were their own family.

It might sicken you, but many folks cherish pets as part of their family. Just because people do so doesn't mean they disrespect human life.

 

[Bjerknes]

wel well well, I guess I should start a thread "all weathermen are fucking retarded idiots, because they never get the forecast right".

Pretty shortsighted of you, Andrew

I've been on the SWAT team here for a couple years, and have yet to shoot a dog...however, if one comes at me during a raid.......

The difference is that meteorologists don't cost people their lives.

I'm not against you, Vinni. You're a good guy, as are many cops. But there's a lot of trash out there dude, and it needs to be exposed.

Personally, I can't trust officers I don't know.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The difference is that meteorologists don't cost people their lives.

I'm not against you, Vinni. You're a good guy, as are many cops. But there's a lot of trash out there dude, and it needs to be exposed.

Personally, I can't trust officers I don't know.

you do man, when you're in distress you do...

 

[GordoDeCentral]

It might sicken you, but many folks cherish pets as part of their family. Just because people do so doesn't mean they disrespect human life.

as for this one, he means people who dont actually 'own' the pet, and their reaction to the plight of pets as opposed to that of fellow humans, and that truly is sickening.

 

[Bjerknes]

you do man, when you're in distress you do...

Where I live, if I need to make a call, the cops have on average five to ten minutes to get here. That's hours in times of distress.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Where I live, if I need to make a call, the cops have on average five to ten minutes to get here. That's hours in times of distress.

I understand but when there you will let them in your house, you will cooperate with them and listen to their orders, in a nutshell you will trust them

 

[swag]

Andrew's thread title is a loaded question to begin with but I will answer it with all honesty. Most cops are pretty much basic civil servants awarded with a gun and a sense of self-importance. Real police work constitutes turning over cases and what not. But you need people to do the dirty work. And in any instance, the people who do the dirty work are the same type of people - the lower end of the education/income spectrum. Yes, most patrol cops, i.e. the ones we come across on a daily basis are the dumb fucks we went to high school with that never were going to amount to anything. I know people will disagree but its the honest truth. These people are no smarter than people who work at airport security, or baggage handlers at the airport. What happens is that you give uneducated people guns and a sense of authority and they will ride it to kingdom come.

All of this applies to cops in every country, for example cops in India are some of the least respected people yet one of the most corrupt-- unskilled, and uneducated, undeserving of respect. Now if we're talking detectives and what not then its a totally different subject. But low-level officers are the bane of society. Especially small town cops.

I think you might suffer from a lack of understanding of the routine. Most firemen don't fight fires as their primary occupation. Most of their time is spent dealing with people having heart attacks on the toilet or cranks who get their regular ambulance ride to the hospital each week for this psychotic reason or that.

As with cops, it's not at all about hard cases, busting people, and brandishing your weapon every 10 minutes. It's boring, mundane work dealing with a lot of people who are social outcasts. The TV show "Cops" partially got it right. Except they emphasize the sensational of the chases, the face-downs, etc. Most of the time a beat cop's life is consumed with things like stolen car reports, runaway teenagers, a mental health case that needs to be escorted to the mental hospital, and people who call 911 and the cops because they can't find their TV remote.

It might sicken you, but many folks cherish pets as part of their family. Just because people do so doesn't mean they disrespect human life.

It does when they glorify animals at the expense of humans. How can not giving a rat's ass about a shot 8-year-old in their town while writing checks for the hurt dog not underscore that point?

And yes, people treat pets as family surrogates but that's not quite the same thing here. It's not like Snoop's moral outrage is because those animals were his personal pets or family members.

 

[Bjerknes]

as for this one, he means people who dont actually 'own' the pet, and their reaction to the plight of pets as opposed to that of fellow humans, and that truly is sickening.

In my case, it has more to do with how I've come to love a pet, so I feel the pain of others when they lose one, especially to idiocy. So it's not exactly all about the pet itself.

 

[Bjerknes]

I understand but when there you will let them in your house, you will cooperate with them and listen to their orders, in a nutshell you will trust them

Listen to their orders in my own house? What? :wth:

It does when they glorify animals at the expense of humans. How can not giving a rat's ass about a shot 8-year-old in their town while writing checks for the hurt dog not underscore that point?

And yes, people treat pets as family surrogates but that's not quite the same thing here. It's not like Snoop's moral outrage is because those animals were his personal pets or family members.

I think you're overreacting here. I've never seen a fund of some sort set up for a hurt dog. Whenever a child is killed, funds are always set up by the family and broadcasted on the news.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Listen to their orders in my own house? What? :wth:



I think you're overreacting here. I've never seen a fund of some sort set up for a hurt dog. Whenever a child is killed, funds are always set up by the family and broadcasted on the news.

you suspect an intruder is in your house, you call the cops they show up and tell tell you to lock yourself in the basement, there you followed their orders.

 

[Bjerknes]

you suspect an intruder is in your house, you call the cops they show up and tell tell you to lock yourself in the basement, there you followed their orders.

Any sensible person already has a plan for that. If you're waiting for the police to tell you what to do, you're screwed, dude.

 

[Fake Melo]

I think this video fits in perfectly here.

 

[swag]

I think you're overreacting here. I've never seen a fund of some sort set up for a hurt dog. Whenever a child is killed, funds are always set up by the family and broadcasted on the news.

This absolutely happens all the time. People come to the rescue of wounded animals with funds, volunteer time, etc. without even being asked. Humans rarely get the same treatment.

 

[Bjerknes]

I've never seen it myself, and I'm a huge dog lover.

But even so, it's their own money. Abortion is something that is practiced constantly so there's your funding for babies.